I see your point. However, if I had a child who was a member of bookshare, I would not feel too safe if there wasn't any type of adult rating. I know the system isn't perfect, but I think it's good that there's one in place. I've run into some erotica books on bookshare and would be horrified if I had a child and that child came in contact with that type of material. So, I think the system, no matter how arbitrary, is good. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shayla Parker" <shayla@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 2:14 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] adult ratings Re: Re: Uh oh -- re weird, Adult rating > This is neither here nor there, but I've always been more than a little > amused by the Bookshare adult rating system. Automated checker or not, it's > always seemed quite arbitrary to me, particularly as it more often than not > depends on the discression of an individual validator. I highly suspect > that what I consider to be adult content and what some other validators > think is adult content are very different things. > > Though, personally, I find the entire concept to be vaguely pointless. > There's an underlying assumption in this sort of system about people's > inability to deal with complex topics that is in the end more than a little > paternalistic. If people don't want to read a particular sort of book > that's one thing, and for that I suppose the system is useful. But telling > young people what they should and shouldn't read is an inherently flawed > idea, as is the whole concept of 'look away! look away! bad things in the > book will leap off the page and infect you!' > > I imagine it's partly a legal issue for Bookshare, though, which is a shame > really because more than one excellent book I remember fondly from my > teenage years is out of reach of Bookshare's younger members. I have no > suggestions on how to make the rating process more intuitive, or even more > uniform as it clearly is not now. So in the end I am entirely unhelpful > except to muddy the waters a little bit. > skp > > At 10:05 PM 1/16/2005, you wrote: > >Sue, > > > >Yes, but the way the bookshare site works is that adult rated books should > >not show up without logging in. Not only can I see them when I'm not logged > >in, but the adult rating is totally missing. > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "siss52" <siss52@xxxxxxx> > >To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 10:49 PM > >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Uh oh -- re weird, Adult rating > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HHi Cindy, > > > > > > Even if folks can see the titles and authors without logging in, they > >can't > > > download them if they are copyrighted.. So I don't see any big deal. > > > <<lol> > > > > > > Sue S. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx> > > > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 10:28 PM > > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Uh oh -- re weird, Adult rating > > > > > > > > > -But I did at least on Love Slave, which was rhe first > > > I did. I don't think Rosamund needed it. I can' t > > > remember if I did on Until You, but that probably > > > didn't need it either. After that I stopped scanning. > > > Unless it's no longer necessary to log in to see Adult > > > rated books, that is no longer marked Adult. > > > > > > Cindy > > > > > > > You know, I never marked Adult on the bErtrice Small > > > > books. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! > > > http://my.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gently they go, the beautiful, the tender, the kind; > Quietly they go, the intelligent, the witty, the brave. > I know. But I do not approve. > And I am not resigned. > > -- 'Dirge Without Music', Edna St. Vincent Millay > > Ring the bells that still can ring, > forget your perfect offering, > there is a crack in everything, > that's how the light gets in. > --Leonard Cohen > > >