[bksvol-discuss] Re: a question on the last days of dogtown

Hi Patty:

It sounds like you did the right thing regarding Home Front. If you have to work at a book to be able to read it, then in my opinion it's not worth it. So you did the right thing in rejecting it.
In most cases it's less time consuming to rescan a book rather then cleaning it up.


I am going to email booksharescans@xxxxxxx
with the title of this book. So that Rui will put it on the No Book Left Behind list.



Grace
----- Original Message ----- From: "patti" <plcdoula@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Hi Cindy and all: I'm reading it on the braillenote. Perhaps when I started fixing things, it saved it as a keyword file, then some of it turned to garbage. I was just systematically fixing what I could, as an editor would; I'm not going to do that anymore. It's time-consuming, and if it messes up the book in the long run, it's not worth it. I think Amber should contact Gustapo and ask him to change the rating, explaining the circumstances, if he's not reading about it, and go on from here.

I guess when I see the quality of what I get from nls opposed to the quality from bookshare, well, let's just say, there's a difference. In most cases, it's not enough of a difference, that, if I wanted to read the book bad enough, I'd read it, but not letter or word quality.

Here's a perfect example; a book I rejected, Home Front, by Patti Davis. I couldn't tell you what it was rated as originally because I just don't remember; but it was virtually unreadable in parts. I'm a pretty good guesser of words or even parts of sentences by context and can fix it; but I would have really had to work at that one, and in many instances, I would have been guessing; and in some instances, I couldn't have figured it out.

So, from here on out, I'll validate--pertinent info, overall quality--and leave it at that. I'm not experienced enough to know what should be fixed and what should be left alone. I'd make a good proofreader because I've always been an excellent braille reader, and I pick up mistakes in lots of books and wonder why they weren't caught.

I'm sorry I hurt Amber's feelings, and I'm sorry I stirred up such a hornet's nest. I've learned valuable things, and I think the bookshare project is wonderful, so I'll continue doing what I'm doing. Patti


----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 7:25 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: a question on the last days of dogtown



Patti,

I'm curious. Which program are you using to read the
book? I see it's available in  BRF and Daisy. I don't
know what Amber did it on; Scott apparently is reading
it on ist Braillenote. I know you said you're reading
it in Braille, but is it a Braille note? Maybe
something else doesn't read it as well. Can you, or
can someone, download the Daisy version, which I
understand can be converted to HTML for reading
purposes as well as being heard.

I guess it's silly to spend so much time on this, but
as I said to Mike, an unresolved question won't let me
rest until I can find an explanation. (smile)

Cindy

--- Scott Blanks <scottsjb@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I downloaded this book from the collection, placed
it on my flash card, and
am currently reading it on my Braillenote. I don't
yet see any problems.

I have checked about 30 different pages throughout
the book to this point.

Scott


----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 5:22 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: a question on the last
days of dogtown



> But let's remember that if a book in the collection > is, for whatever reason, only Fair, it can be put on > the download list to be re-validated. If something > mangled Amber's submitted copy, and the one in the > collection truly is now only Fair, it can be put back > on the download list by Gustavo, and she can download > it and approve and upload her Excellent copy. It will > be interesting to see what Sue finds out. It may just > be, as has been suggested that the BRF copy got messed > up somehow. Maybe the other copy will translate to BRF > okay. > > Let's hope. > > Cindy > > --- Mike Pietruk <pietruk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> PPatti >> >> Sue will be reading not validating the book for once >> validated and added >> to the collection, there is no revalidation. >> >> Let me say something as both a submitter and >> validator. Once you have >> been around long enough, you see a lot of things >> happen to your work that >> sometimes can rub one the wrong way. >> As a submitter, I've seen books mangled and refered >> less useful bvy the >> time it entered the collection. >> I've submitted books that, because another person >> also happened to submit >> one at more or less the same time, my got rejected >> even though potentially >> it might have been better. >> The other book got accepted first. >> I have had ratings changed. >> The bottom line, as I see it, is so what! >> It's part of life, and as long as the book makes the >> collection, others >> will benefit be it my copy, someone elses, or >> whether the rating reflects >> the book or not. >> So relax, Patti, move on to your next book and view >> this as a learning >> experience as every validation can be. >> It gets a lot easier as you do more as you learn the >> submitters, the >> tricks of the trade, and a lot more. >> >> >> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to >> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject >> line. To get a list of available commands, put the >> word 'help' by itself in the subject line. >> >> > > > > > > __________________________________ > Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > http://mail.yahoo.com > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list > of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. >

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