[bksvol-discuss] Re: a question on the last days of dogtown

  • From: "siss52" <siss52@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 19:43:50 -0500


Patti,
I just wanted to comment on how nice your message looks.  As for stirring up
a hornet's nest I think we have all done that.  I used to be afraid to post
because it seemed all of my posts ended up in what the list calls a ranting
session.  <smile>  Besides, it was Amber's post wondering about her book
that started all of this.

Sue S.

----- Original Message -----
From: "patti" <plcdoula@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 6:45 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: a question on the last days of dogtown


> Hi Cindy and all:  I'm reading it on the braillenote. Perhaps when I
started
> fixing things, it saved it as a keyword file, then some of it turned to
> garbage.  I was just systematically fixing what I could, as an editor
would;
> I'm not going to do that anymore.  It's time-consuming, and if it messes
up
> the book in the long run, it's not worth it.  I think Amber should contact
> Gustapo and ask him to change the rating, explaining the circumstances, if
> he's not reading about it, and go on from here.
>
> I guess when I see the quality of what I get from nls opposed to the
quality
> from bookshare, well, let's just say, there's a difference.  In most
cases,
> it's not enough of a difference, that, if I wanted to read the book bad
> enough, I'd read it, but not letter or word quality.
>
> Here's a perfect example; a book I rejected, Home Front, by Patti Davis.
I
> couldn't tell you what it was rated as originally because I just don't
> remember; but it was virtually unreadable in parts.  I'm a pretty good
> guesser of words or even parts of sentences by context and can fix it; but
I
> would have really had to work at that one, and in many instances, I would
> have been guessing; and in some instances, I couldn't have figured it out.
>
> So, from here on out, I'll validate--pertinent info, overall quality--and
> leave it at that.  I'm not experienced enough to know what should be fixed
> and what should be left alone.  I'd make a good proofreader because I've
> always been an excellent braille reader, and I pick up mistakes in lots of
> books and wonder why they weren't caught.
>
> I'm sorry I hurt Amber's feelings, and I'm sorry I stirred up such a
> hornet's nest.  I've learned valuable things, and I think the bookshare
> project is wonderful, so I'll continue doing what I'm doing.  Patti
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 7:25 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: a question on the last days of dogtown
>
>
> > Patti,
> >
> > I'm curious. Which program are you using to read the
> > book? I see it's available in  BRF and Daisy. I don't
> > know what Amber did it on; Scott apparently is reading
> > it on ist Braillenote. I know you said you're reading
> > it in Braille, but is it a Braille note? Maybe
> > something else doesn't read it as well. Can you, or
> > can someone, download the Daisy version, which I
> > understand can be converted to HTML for reading
> > purposes as well as being heard.
> >
> > I guess it's silly to spend so much time on this, but
> > as I said to Mike, an unresolved question won't let me
> > rest until I can find an explanation. (smile)
> >
> > Cindy
> >
> > --- Scott Blanks <scottsjb@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >> I downloaded this book from the collection, placed
> >> it on my flash card, and
> >> am currently reading it on my Braillenote. I don't
> >> yet see any problems.
> >>
> >> I have checked about 30 different pages throughout
> >> the book to this point.
> >>
> >> Scott
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 5:22 PM
> >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: a question on the last
> >> days of dogtown
> >>
> >>
> >> > But let's remember that if a book in the
> >> collection
> >> > is, for whatever reason, only Fair, it can be put
> >> on
> >> > the download list to be re-validated. If something
> >> > mangled Amber's submitted copy, and the one in the
> >> > collection truly is now only Fair, it can be put
> >> back
> >> > on the download list by Gustavo, and she can
> >> download
> >> > it and approve and upload her Excellent copy. It
> >> will
> >> > be interesting to see what Sue finds out. It may
> >> just
> >> > be, as has been suggested that the BRF copy got
> >> messed
> >> > up somehow. Maybe the other copy will translate to
> >> BRF
> >> > okay.
> >> >
> >> > Let's hope.
> >> >
> >> > Cindy
> >> >
> >> > --- Mike Pietruk <pietruk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> PPatti
> >> >>
> >> >> Sue will be reading not validating the book for
> >> once
> >> >> validated and added
> >> >> to the collection, there is no revalidation.
> >> >>
> >> >> Let me say something as both a submitter and
> >> >> validator.  Once you have
> >> >> been around long enough, you see a lot of things
> >> >> happen to your work that
> >> >> sometimes can rub one the wrong way.
> >> >> As a submitter, I've seen books mangled and
> >> refered
> >> >> less useful bvy the
> >> >> time it entered the collection.
> >> >> I've submitted books that, because another person
> >> >> also happened to submit
> >> >> one at more or less the same time, my got
> >> rejected
> >> >> even though potentially
> >> >> it might have been better.
> >> >> The other book got accepted first.
> >> >> I have had ratings changed.
> >> >> The bottom line, as I see it, is so what!
> >> >> It's part of life, and as long as the book makes
> >> the
> >> >> collection, others
> >> >> will benefit be it my copy, someone elses, or
> >> >> whether the rating reflects
> >> >> the book or not.
> >> >> So relax, Patti, move on to your next book and
> >> view
> >> >> this as a learning
> >> >> experience as every validation can be.
> >> >> It gets a lot easier as you do more as you learn
> >> the
> >> >> submitters, the
> >> >> tricks of the trade, and a lot more.
> >> >>
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