Of course I see other issues with such a designation, especially with how it is set up as a one-size on-off. There are lots of books that are entirely inappropriate for a 10 year old, far far fewer for a 16 or 17 year old. I'm not sure there is anything purely text that would produce the reaction in me that the proofing guide uses when talking about such a teen. On 9/1/09, Rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx <Rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx> wrote: > That could be part of the problem too, but I am suddenly reminded of a > funny story. I said that the censor types insist on imposing their own > tastes on > everyone else. Actually, now that I think about it, it may not even be > their own tastes. There was a guy I once knew who was an official at my > city's > most prominent Presbyterian church. He wasn't a minister and I don't know > exactly what he was, but he had his own private office in the church and he > absolutely never appeared in public wearing anything but a gray suit and a > neck > tie. He was the pillar of the community type. Now, obviously, this is not > the kind of person I would hang out with. I only knew him barely and that > was > only because I knew his daughter a lot better. She was a much more regular > kind of person. She could party for one thing. Her father's idea of partying > was probably a stiff formal dinner with the city fathers. Well, the time > came when I got a job as a sales clerk in a porn shop and suddenly he had a > pair of automobile floor mats that he wanted to give me. Not only that, but > he > wanted to deliver them to me at my place of employment. I assure you, he > could have given them to me elsewhere quite easily or even transmitted them > to > me through his daughter. When he came into the shop it was all I could do > to keep from bursting out laughing. He was trying his best to look > nonchalant > and appear to ignore the wares on display, but I could see his eyes darting > around and he was nearly salivating. The mats were obviously an excuse to > check out the interior of a porn shop. I even felt a little sorry for him. I > am sure that he really wanted to open up some of the magazines or watch some > of the videos, but the mats did not provide an excuse for that and he > couldn't come up with an excuse. In retrospect I wonder what he would have > said > if I had offered to show him some of those things. Now the issue never came > up, but I knew him and his type well enough that I am sure that if, for > example, someone had proposed a city ordinance to shut the store down for > "indecency" that he would most likely have been all for such an ordinance. > So, yes, > censorship is the practice of imposing one's own tastes on everyone else, > but it is also the practice of imposing the tastes that one wants everyone > to > think one has on everyone else. > > > "The end may justify the means as long as there is something that justifies > the end. > " Leon Trotsky > > The Militant: http://www.themilitant.com Pathfinder Press: > http://www.pathfinderpress.com > Granma International: http://granma.cu/ingles/index.html > _ > > table with 2 columns and 6 rows > Subj: > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Wishlist Request > Date: > 9/1/2009 10:55:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time > From: > mentat3@xxxxxxxxxxx > Reply-to: > bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > To: > bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent from the Internet > (Details) > table end > > The problem is that because this rating has such a low threshold, and the > submitter cannot change it, that if a book gets one of those quick proofing > jobs, > the proof reader may not even check the rating. So the books get into the > collection with an adult rating because the submitter can't change it, and > the > proofer may not bother to check. > > Evan > > block quote > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > Rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx > > To: > bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 9:27 PM > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Wishlist Request > > I think it is both, but since at least the proofreader can change that > designation I think it is mostly the latter. The censorship mind set is > inherently > a mind set that insists on imposing one's own tastes on everyone else. It > is known by various names including self-righteousness, > holier-than-thou-ness, > arrogance and imperiousness. > > "The end > may justify the means as long as there is something that justifies the end. > " Leon Trotsky > > The Militant: > http://www.themilitant.com > Pathfinder Press: > http://www.pathfinderpress.com > Granma International: > http://granma.cu/ingles/index.html > _ > > table with 2 columns and 6 rows > Subj: > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Wishlist Request > Date: > 9/1/2009 9:03:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time > From: > soronel.haetir@xxxxxxxxx > Reply-to: > bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > To: > bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent from the Internet > (Details) > table end > > The adult content scan must have an incredibly low threshold. That or > there are submitters who think no child/teen should read anything more > risque than Nancy Drew. > > On 9/1/09, gwen tweedy <gstweedy@xxxxxxx> wrote: >> Speaking of books to add to series, >> I hope one day >> they get book 3 I can't for the life of me think of what it is >> but they have Independence and the last in the 4 is Origon in the Wagons >> west series by Dana Fuller Ross, >> There are several messing, >> and to get them whenever is cool, >> but you actually need the 3rd book to make at least the first 4 > complete. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Kelby Carlson" <kelbycarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 6:41 PM >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Wishlist Request >> >> >>> Dear Booksharians, >>> >>> I would like to request the following be added to the collection: >>> >>> The Wolves of the Calla (The Dark Tower, Book 5) >>> >>> It's the only one in this series that is missing, and I'd really like to >>> read it. >>> >>> >>> >>> --- Get FREE High Speed Internet from USFamily.Net! -- >>> http://www.usfamily.net/mkt-freepromo.html --- >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to >>> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. 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