Ok guys. I'm about to go for a run, but before I do. . . I will say a few things: 1. Next Monday, one of the agenda items for our engineering and operations meeting will be how to more aptly notify our validators if their accepted books get put back on the download list for further review. 2. Another agenda item will be the page break issue. 3. Angry rumblings about quitting volunteer work over these issues are really not constructive. While this list is a place to vent your concerns to your fellow volunteers, and while boisterous discussion is always welcome, I'd like to focus the discussion on how we can properly balance these issues of quality and genre. In other words, can we redirect the tone of this exchange? Have a pleasant evening. Thanks, Marissa -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 4:51 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Will place it here too! I agree with you. My frustration has to do with the page break issue which bookshare has decided to incorporate. I recently had an RTF science fiction book which did not have page numbers. The page breaks were only the ones which word automatically puts in. There were a few spelling errors, but the scan was excellent. I let the book release because I did not want to be the one to reject such a beautiful scan. I can agree with page breaks for nonfiction and text books. However, with easy reading books, I have a problem with the new rules. I love science fiction and fantasy books and would be happy to validate them. However, I refuse to reject an excellent scan because it lacks page numbers and page breaks if it is such type of book. Therefore, whenever I grab a book like such and the only problem is lack of page breaks, I will just be glad that at least I was able to read it. Please reconsider this insane rule regarding light-reading books, or I will be forced to reconsider whether it is worth my time to validate. David -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Reggie & Lonnie Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 1:38 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Will place it here too! I am getting extremely sick and tired of all the nonsense. I validated and uploaded 5 books last w3eekend. I have now found 3 of them back on the download list and two have been grabbed by someone else. No warning, no statement as to why! If my validation is going to continue like this, I quit, quit, quit!!! I work hard and only have at night and some weekends to do this stuff. The least that Bookshare could do is send me a notice that the book is not good enough and that I should work on it longer and re-upload. As you can tell I am really angry, angry, angry!!! We do not get as validators the same amount, although we work sometimes harder than the people who scan. We need all the money we can make to make the scans better. Now, before I break my keyboard in total, total anger, I will depart. If I am not doing a good job then I will not be back on this list and I will not be re-joining BKS! I am currently fixing a fair book so if it will be returned to the list when I am finished could someone please let me know so I do not, not continue to work hard on this!!! Thanks. Regina Alvarado P.S.: These books were rated excellent! --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.806 / Virus Database: 548 - Release Date: 12/5/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.806 / Virus Database: 548 - Release Date: 12/5/2004