[bksvol-discuss] Re: Validation
- From: barbarab65@xxxxxxx
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 18:14:45 -0500
I finish valading the main text of a book including the preliminary material.
Do I need to validate the Index, as well, before I upload it? Also, a few of
the footnotes were in French and since my scanner did not do a good job of
scanning some of the French symbols, can I ignore these scanning errors or do I
need to correct them?
Barbara Baker
-----Original Message-----
From: popularplace@xxxxxxxxx
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 3:07 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: double column formatting
Oh. O.K. That's good. I'll put it back.
Otherwise, and referring to what Lissi said, the one
column created goes more than one page--and this would
certainly be the cse with Rik's 3-column page. In that
case, if it's in the middle of something and the pages
are nemubered, is it better to leave the extended
pages un-numbered to use letters to indicate that the
the pages are part of the first columned page. One
could put an explanatiion in the long synopsis, too.
(Am I being clear?)
Cindy
--- Pratik Patel <pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Cindy,
>
> When I say "correctly marked up" I mean that it's
> divided into different
> sections. If it appears in Microsoft word as two
> sections, Braille
> conversion should have no problem differentiating
> the two columns.
>
> Pratik
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Grandma Cindy
> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 5:42 PM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: double column
> formatting
>
> Thanks for that explanation, Pratik. Word creates
> the
> two columns by putting a section break. However,
> after
> what you told me, I think I'll leave tings as one
> columns and se the a and b to indicate the pges, as
> Lissi did. In this particular case, it's a lst of
> books by the author and the page isn't numbered, so
> it
> doesn't matter.
>
> Cindy
>
> --- Pratik Patel <pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Cindy,
> >
> > Braille is usually read serially--from left to
> right
> > and top to bottom
> > (except in the case of Hibru and arabic)--and
> having
> > a columnar layout
> > usually confuses most people. If braille is layed
> > out on a physical page,
> > two columns would not be a problem and the reader
> > can easily move from one
> > column to another. For those of us--who are using
> > braille displays,
> > however--it is far more difficult to pick up two
> > columns and lines tend to
> > be jumbled together. If the columns are marked up
> > correctly as columns,
> > these issues would not come up as the translator
> > would be able to determine
> > how to format the page. But, often times, you
> will
> > find that to you, as a
> > sighted reader, something may look like a column
> due
> > to its visual layout,
> > but not actually be a column. Many times columns
> are
> > created by putting in
> > right amount of space between the end of one
> column
> > and the beginning of the
> > second column.
> >
> > I hope I haven't managed to confuse you. Let me
> > know if you have any
> > questions.
> >
> > Pratik
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > Behalf Of Grandma Cindy
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 11:59 PM
> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: double column
> > formatting
> >
> > So, Lissi, are you sayng that as a Braile reader
> it
> > would be better not to have two columns on a page
> > but
> > to have the one column and the pages marked a and
> b
> > as
> > you do? I think I did that with one book but I
> do't
> > remember which one.
> >
> > Cindy
> >
> > --- Estelnalissi <airadil@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > Dear Bookshare Volunteers,
> > >
> > > My solution for dealing with indices and pages
> > with
> > > long double columns is
> > > to put each column on a new page and to label
> the
> > > pages a and b. If page 364
> > > is a glossary with 2 columns I label the page
> with
> > > the first column 364a and
> > > at the end of that column put in a page break. I
> > > label the next page 364b
> > > and then put in the second column flush with the
> > > left margin as I did the
> > > first. That way, I don't get overlong pages and
> > > numerically the pages remain
> > > true to the text and best of all, I don't have
> to
> > > worry about how to format
> > > the second column. When I've tried putting the 2
> > > columns in a table,
> > > navigating as I validate is clumsy because I
> > really
> > > don't know how to make
> > > the cursor move between columns.
> > >
> > > My solution is as low tech as it gets with
> > Microsoft
> > > word but it gets me
> > > through those long academic appendices, letting
> me
> > > concentrate on the
> > > accuracy of the content more than formatting.
> From
> > > my point of view as a
> > > braille Bookshare reader as well as a validator,
> > > this method is
> > > uncomplicated, and easy to negotiate in a brf
> > file.
> > >
> > > Cindy, if I get caught up enough in my reading
> and
> > > validating, I'll let you
> > > know how your columns appear in the braille file
> > of
> > > 100 Women who Shaped
> > > World History, but even if they're scrambled,
> I'm
> > > sure the text will be
> > > terrific and pleasant, informative, reading.
> > >
> > > The double columned contents of, The Devil and
> the
> > > Giro, which I recently
> > > finished validating, appeared in a table, and
> out
> > of
> > > curiosity, I left it
> > > that way. I'll be curious to see if the tools
> > > morphed the table in to some
> > > different arrangement. There again, if the
> > contents
> > > are muddled, the stories
> > > will still be in tact.
> > >
> > > I hope any of you who have a different approach
> > for
> > > formatting double
> > > columns or who have read books in the collection
> > > which have them will tell
> > > us what you do or how the columns look to you as
> > > braille or audio readers.
> > >
> > > Always with love,
> > >
> > > Lissi
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 4:32 AM
> > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] columns question
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I know how to create columns on page using
> Word.
> > > Are
> > > > they retained when bookshare converts the
> books?
> > > When
> > > > viewing the page in Page Layout the page
> appears
> > > in
> > > > two columns, as it should, but only as one
> long
> > > column
> > > > with the continuous section break in the other
> > > View
> > > > options.
> > > >
> > > > A couple of years ago when I had to create
> > columns
> > > for
> > > > a Table of Contents to Fit on a page, and some
> > > pages,
> > > > I did it using tabs, so the book must look
> > awful.
> > > I
> > > > didn't know tabs got erased. I could redo the
> > book
> > > > with the columns that the book itself had if
> > > columns
> > > > are retained.
> > > >
> > > > Has anyone downloaded 100 Women Who Shaped
> World
> > > > History from the collection? It's a wonderful
> > > > reference book for both children and adults.
> > Does
> > > it
> > > > need reformatting when I get the chance?
> > > >
> > > > Cindy
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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