That is what I call responsible use of the hold system. It keeps the list from being clogged with holds. The simple fact is that if you are working as a team you could upload a book to the checkout list and someone could grab it within seconds. A hold would prevent that. But why have it sitting there for weeks?
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To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 3:02 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: The Hold discussion again.
Sense you have a team in place for your books, there would be no reason why yall couldn't fix it up between you as to when approximately it is scanned and they then could tell you alone when it is put up. no one would even know the book was there it would already be taken by your team member that is easy done when you have an ongoing team where you do everything together----- Original Message ----- From: "EVAN REESE" <mentat3@xxxxxxxxxxx>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 1:34 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: The Hold discussion again.Hi Valerie,I am a strong proponent of the hold for system, as you know. What you may want to do is work things out with the scanner to submit your books only when you are ready to start proofing them. This will minimize the time they spend on the Check Out page.Evan----- Original Message ----- From: "Valerie Maples" <vlmaples@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 1:50 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: The Hold discussion again.So, Roger, are you saying I should not be able to proof books I have bought just because I cannot do them in 2 weeks? That does not sound fair to me at all. I do not check out books to read, I only scan and proof, but far prefer proofing to see the end product and ensure it is as complete as possible, including paragraphing, something many blind people cannot do. I have bought many hard to find old series, and I think I have bought the right to proof my own books. If not, my services would be better used elsewhere...Valerie On Mar 1, 2010, at 9:59 AM, Roger Loran Bailey wrote:Actually, I am coming to doubt the necessity of the hold system at all. As I understand it, before I came to Bookshare, there was no limit on the number of books that one might have checked out. That was changed because it was being abused. That is, someone would check out books and hold them for very long periods of time running into years. Okay, a limit of five was established, but what good does that do if the same books that used to be hoarded in one's checkout pile was then hoarded in the open on the public checkout list? The only difference I see is that they were then in the way when someone was looking for something to proofread and had to skim through pages of holds to find one. On the other hand, though, I do see some reasons that it might be good to hold a book for someone. Back in August of 2008 I had almost finished proofing a certain book into which I had put quite a bit of work and I had a hard drive crash and was out of commission for a while. I contacted Cindy and asked her to grab that book when it expired and save it for me, but I think she contacted Carrie to ask that a hold be put on it for me. That was a case in which I was glad I could get one held for me. Another case of a legitimate hold is the case of Carrie having to return a book to the checkout list for some minor correction. It is only fair that the proofer who had just worked on it get a chance to correct it, but all too often those proofers never bother to pick it up again and it just sits there with a hold on it. With exceptions like I just mentioned you would only find an occasional hold on the checkout list and then only for a little while. As things stand, though, it seems to me that the abuse that the limitation on the number of books one may have checked out was not solved, but just made more public.To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxput the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxput the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxput the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.
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