[bksvol-discuss] Re: Table Of Contents

I agree with Valerie. It is a torture to figure out tables of contents visually with just the single space. I'm perfectly happy with an ellipsis instead of the space, as an idea. I can't see any way that trying to figuour out how many periods to put in to make the right margin on each line, as is done with a printed book, will make sense or be anything but a nightmare to do if you're blind. Having an ellipsis in makes it perfectly readable for me visually.
Golly, I hope I'm making sense. I had some major dental surgery today and we had to use enough anesthesia to bring an elephant down. So I'm a bit loopy! grin. 

Judy s.

Valerie Maples wrote:
Ideally you should have enough periods so the right margin is even for visual scanning of page numbers as a list, but an ellipsis would be better than a single space. that is outright torture to find anything. 

Valerie


On 11 04, 2009, at 11:17 AM, Mayrie ReNae wrote:


Hi Debby,

I'd like more commentary from our sighted print disabled readers to know
whether this will be helpful before I change my practises.  I'm happy to
change, as you are, but not willing to make a permanent change until or
unless it is commented upon by more than one person.
Vallerie, Doug, Judy, anyone else who is print disabled, but sighted want to 
comment on this?

Mayrie



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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Debby Franson
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Table Of Contents

Hi Mayrie!

Should I insert elipses in the table of contents in "Rebel With a Cause"?
It wouldn't be a bother.

Debby

At 07:50 AM 11/3/2009, Mayrie ReNae wrote

Hi Melissa,

That's a great idea!  Let's see if it would work for folks like
Valerie's Nichole, since Valerie was the one requesting a change.  If
it would work, I don't see how it would go against anything bookshare has 
ever said.


Mayrie



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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Melissa Smith
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 5:07 AM
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Table Of Contents

I've been thinking about Valerye's concerns about the table of contents.
I got to thinking about how Braille books have a series of dots between
the chapter title and page number. So, I was wondering if inserting an
ellipses between the chapter title and page number would be an appropriate 
solution.

An ellipses will be recognized and kept by bookshare's tools, and will
give some separation between chapter title and page number for those
that need that. It wouldn't be spoken by most screen readers, so
wouldn't interfere with anybody's listening pleasure.
Finally, since Braille readers are used to the series of dots between
chapter title and page number, it wouldn't seem unusual to them either.
So, do you think this would be acceptable and not violate any bookshare
rules?

Melissa


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