[bksvol-discuss] Re: Table Of Contents

  • From: Valerie Maples <vlmaples@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:07:27 -0600

This is the first I had heard of the space before an ellipsis, so i can tell you as a sighted volunteer I have routinely removed the leading space, but I will insert or preserve them if I am told. it is a lesser problem for sighted readers than some of the other issues in formatting, I wold think. 


Valerie


On 11 04, 2009, at 11:33 AM, Paula and James Muysenberg wrote:


Hi, Lynn,
When I scan books, I do put spaces before and after ellipses, so they will be represented correctly on braille displays. If I remember correctly, screen readers tend to handle them better that way, as well. I would like to hear from sighted volunteers, as to whether the space before and after makes ellipses look weird or distracting, or whether it's not a problem for print 
readers.

Paula

----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn I" <lynnskyi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 11:01 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Table Of Contents



Hi Mayrie, or anyone who knows more than I do!
Isn't the space before and after the ellipsis necessary for the Braille 
file
to translate properly?

I certainly thought so. Just wondering. *smile*

Blessings.

Lynnsky
----- Original Message ----- From: "Debby Franson" <the.bee@xxxxxxxxxxx > 
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Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 10:57 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Table Of Contents


Hi Mayrie!

Should I insert elipses in the table of contents in "Rebel With a
Cause"?  It wouldn't be a bother.

Debby

At 07:50 AM 11/3/2009, Mayrie ReNae wrote

Hi Melissa,
That's a great idea! Let's see if it would work for folks like Valerie's Nichole, since Valerie was the one requesting a change. If it would work, 
I
don't see how it would go against anything bookshare has ever said.

Mayrie



-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Melissa Smith 
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 5:07 AM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Table Of Contents
I've been thinking about Valerye's concerns about the table of contents. I got to thinking about how Braille books have a series of dots between 
the
chapter title and page number. So, I was wondering if inserting an
ellipses
between the chapter title and page number would be an appropriate
solution.
An ellipses will be recognized and kept by bookshare's tools, and will 
give
some separation between chapter title and page number for those that need that. It wouldn't be spoken by most screen readers, so wouldn't interfere 
with anybody's listening pleasure.
Finally, since Braille readers are used to the series of dots between chapter title and page number, it wouldn't seem unusual to them either. So, do you think this would be acceptable and not violate any bookshare 
rules?

Melissa


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