I'll do that, in fact, I should have done it before submission, though didn't know if pagination, front pages and bookmarks would survive the transformation. Curtis Delzer On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 13:27:18 -0500, Kellie Hartmann wrote: Hi Curtis, Because Kes is a specialized format it is necessary for someone who has Kurzweil to validate those files. This means that sometimes it takes quite a while for those books to be validated. If you would like to reduce the amount of time your book is likely to spend on the download list, you might want to consider submitting in rtf. Hth, Kellie