[bksvol-discuss] Re: Stripping headers
- From: "EVAN REESE" <mentat3@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 12:33:30 -0500
Hi Denise,
I have found that when stripping headers, case can be very important. For
example, often the header is in all caps. When the header is the title of the
book, which can appear in the text, if you don't have case sensitivity enabled,
you can remove instances of the same words in the text along with removing the
headers. I would highly recommend that if people are going to remove headers
using find and replace, that when they select the header, they enable case
sensitivity in whatever software they are using to avoid inadvertent removal of
the same words in the body of the text.
Evan
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From: Denise Thompson
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 3:19 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Stripping headers
Kim, OK that's good to know. Then I won't worry about you thinking I'm
talking down to you. (smile)
You only need to check case sensativity if the case is important. So for
example if there were instances when the authors name wasn't capitolized for
some reason and you wanted them capitolized, you would type the name in without
capitals in the find box and type it in the replace box with capitals then
check the case sensativity box. if this box isn't capitolized it gives the same
weight to instance of the find you've put in. In most situations like the
stripping of headers the case is unimportant because you want them all deleted
so just leave it unchecked.
Denise
If it would be helpful to talk on the phone email me off list and I'd be
happy to talk to you. I have unlimited minutes so it wouldn't cost me anything.
My email is deniset@xxxxxxxx
At 05:00 AM 12/21/2009, you wrote:
Hi, Denise, you are talking to a relatively new computer user here. I
haven't done much word processing type stuff as my word processing consists of
proofreading my emails before I send them. When you do this method of header
stripping, before you choose the "more" option, do you check for case
sensitivity? Regards, Kim.
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mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Denise Thompson
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 1:43 AM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Stripping headers
Sorry Kim I'll try and explain better.
As you've already pointed out, the authors name and the name of the book
appear at the beginning of the book and if you do a replace all and get rid of
the headers that include that info those references disappear also. So I either
page down the document to the first chapter or do a control F which is the find
short cut key for windows and type chapter 1 in. Once I'm at the first chapter
page, I use the find and replace short cut for Word- if that's what you're
using. in the find box I type the name of the book then tab to the replace box
and leave it blank. then if you tab over a few more items you come to a button
that is labled More. I click on this button. Now that button says Less- that's
just so you'll know and won't get confused if you see the button again in
another search. Once the more button is pushed, many other options show up that
you can use to perform or specialize a find and replace action. One of these
choices is a box that allows you to change what direction the find and replace
action takes when going through the document. It defaults to all which means
that no matter where you are in the document the whole document is searched and
the action you've requested is carried out. If you arrow up there are two other
choices. You can set the search to only go down from where you are in the
document or only to go up from where you are in the document. So I arrow up to
down. Then either tab back to the replace all button or just do an alt A
combination wich is the short cut key that will start the action. The search
and replacement goes down from the first chapter to the bottom of the document.
When it gets to the bottom, Word will say that it has finished searching the
document and --- so many changes have been made. Then it asks if you like to
continue the search at the beginning of the document. You click No. Then you're
back at the find and replace page. Just hit escape to go back to the document
or do another find and replace like putting the authors name in the find box
and checking to make sure it's still set on down before clicking replace all
again. If you do this, it gets rid of the headers or footer info but it leaves
the stuff at the beginning of the book untouched. This works really well if the
header or footer has scanned well. If it doesn't, it'll get rid of those that
scanned well, but the ones where the text isn't exactly as you typed in will
still be there. But there's no way to fix that issue except doing a quick check
to see if it gets them all. You can tell how affective it is for the most part
by knowing how many pages are in the book and how many replacements word says
it did. It should be pretty equally divided between the books name and the
authors name if the scan was clear.
I hope this helps and if I got too detailed sorry about that. I just wasn't
sure how much to put down.
Denise
At 10:03 PM 12/20/2009, you wrote:
Hi, Denise, I don't understand what you mean. Sorry about that. Judy S.
Gave me a suggestion whereby you temporarily place a certain character in the
author's name or the title, thus altering temporarily what you want to keep. I
don't know about this though. What's going to stop the find-and-replace
function getting rid of author's names from within a blurb or something like
that? What is this up-down thing? Regards, confused and bewildered Kim.
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From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [
mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Denise Thompson
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 12:49 AM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Stripping headers
I get rid of headers or footers and keep the authours name and book title
by just going to the first chapter page and doing the find and replace stuff
then clicking more on that page. this allows you to change the direction of the
replace. I change it to down instead of all. It replaces or in this case
removes the material I've asked it to remove but doesn't touch the beginning of
the document. Works pretty slick.
Denise
At 09:37 PM 12/20/2009, you wrote:
Kim, one way is:
Make the header with the story title plus the author byline that you
want to keep distinctly different than the rest of the headers. Then you can
safely go ahead and do a global search and replace for the rest of the headers
without worrying about eliminating the ones you want to keep.
You can do that by, for example, by going to the first story header you
want to keep, and putting some asterisks (or some other character) temporarily
inside the words of the title and within the name of the author that you also
want to keep on the page. Then, you go back after getting rid of all the rest
of the headers that were originally identical to this one, you go back and
remove the characters that put in.
So lets say the title of the story is Proofreaders Wear Paisley by Ida
Knowbetter. On the pages where you want to keep the title and the author from
getting deleted, you change the title to something like: P*roofreaders W*ear
P*aisley by I*da K*nowbetter.
Then, you'd use the search and replace function in Word (or Kurzweil)
to search for Proofreaders Read Paisley, leave the "replace" box empty and do a
"replace all." Then do the same think with the author's name - do a search for
Ida Knowbetter and leave the replace box empty and do a "replace all."
Then, go back to the places where you want to keep the title and the
author name, and remove the asterisks you added into them.
Be very careful that you alter the title and author names on every page
where you want them to remain, not just the page where the story starts! So if
there is a Table of Contents, a list of authors, or a list of copyright holders
at the start of the book, or an index at the back of the book, you want to
alter those too if needed before doing your search and replace, and you then
must go back and change those the title and author name in each of those places
back to what it was after you finish your search and replace.
Judy s.
Hi, I'm working on a story collection as a proofreader. When I got
to the
actual stories, I find the odd numbered pages have the story titles
as the
header while the even numbered pages have the author's name. How
can I get
rid of the excess headers while still retaining the header with the
story
title plus the author byline on the first page of each story? If I
can avoid
deleting all of them manually, that would save me from some
repetitious
work. Please, folks, don't give me a capsule description of how to
do this
because I think it's likely I might not understand what I should
do. Be as
detailed as possible, filling in the who, what, when, where, why,
and how
(in other words, please fill in any gap you can think of.). Your
help is
needed because time's flying and I want the book to look nice.
Regards, Kim.
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