Hi Yes, Ernie is a good guy! I have spoken with him more than once. I think he thinks I am the Bookshare techline, LOL:) Katie Hill No one is given a dream without also being given the power to make it come true -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of siss52 Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 8:21 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Sad decision Ernie, I am not Cindy, but just HAD to tell you how much I enjoyed this message. Your wife, family and friends must really value your sense of humor! <<<lol> Keep making us laugh with the humor you include in your posts. Sue S. ----- Original Message ----- From: "k4zq" <k4zq@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 8:29 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Sad decision > Hi Cindy, > > Well, your point is a good one, but it's like saying that one plate in a > china pattern can stand by itself. It can, but any good wife will tell you > (which mine has) that one plate does not a pattern make. > > If I'm studying western civ history, and I stop with the assassination of > Julius Caesar, the material I have covered is accurate, but you can't really > call my study complete. For example, I won't know a lot about Elvis. > > As for the Norton, I'm coming more and more to the thought that rejection is > the way to go with this one. There are 3 reasons: there are some missing > pages already, and I'm on page 23. 2, this is only volume I which means > that somebody's gonna miss McBeth--or think that nobody's written anything > since say > Chaucer, and 3, since there are practically 2 editions later, somebody with > a lot of time and nothing else to do, may decide to scan one of 'em. > > Actually, I think I'll take the politically correct course, and just release > it back; for as my friend Katie will tell you, gods know I wouldn't offend > anybody for the world. Somebody took a lot of effort to scan this thing, > and if I'm right, she's already frustrated with the system. If it was the > other individual, he's probably a really cool guy, and I don't wannaa be > accused of saying "Do it better, Kid." > > For now, gotta go eat, so I'll validate this and send it you. "Of all the > things I've ever lost, I miss my mind the most. > Ernie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 2:18 AM > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Sad decision > > > >I do enjoy your posts, Ernie. You have a positive > > attitude and always lighten what you say with a > > chuckle-causing line or two. > > > > A collection like the Norton Anthology really can't > > said to be only half the book, since volume one is > > complete in itself and volume two probably has later > > masterpieces of literature and will be complete in > > itself. Anyway, hopefully someone will scan volume > > two. > > > > Cindy > > > > --- k4zq <k4zq@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > >> Hi Mickey, > >> > >> You know that I am pretty new to this whole > >> Bookshare thing, but let me just > >> share a bit with you. > >> > >> Seems to me that Bookshare is in flux at the moment. > >> However, the staff > >> positions seem to be getting filled. > >> > >> Whenever I look at the news at the top of the > >> bookshare page, the number of > >> available books keeps going up. The only conclusion > >> I can reach is that > >> somebody is doing something. > >> > >> Sounds as though you have a lot of books that are > >> ready for approval, but > >> it's taking time. Well, in my short time, I've > >> picked up three books for > >> validation; 1 wouldn't upload when I finished it, 1 > >> had missing copyright > >> info, and each chapter was in a different file, and > >> the last one has missing > >> pages. It is also an earlier edition of a book > >> whose newest edition is > >> coming out in 2006. It also is only half the book > >> since it is in 2 volumes, > >> and only vol I is available. > >> > >> Frustrating, right. Besides, I have a hell of a lot > >> of things I could be > >> reading. At this point, I'm waiting for some > >> comments on the list to see > >> whether I should proceed with this validation, or > >> just reject the book and > >> hope for a later scan. > >> > >> fifteen hours a week is a lot of time to be putting > >> into an activity which > >> seems to be bearing little fruit. Might I suggest > >> that you just back off > >> considerably, say to 3 hours a week or so, rather > >> than just going away. It > >> may seem that your work for Bookshare is not > >> appreciated, but that's not so > >> at all. > >> > >> Bookshare is primarily our organization, and it > >> always will be what we make > >> it. The professional staff can only do so much, and > >> the rest is up to us to > >> keep it growing. That means that whatever anyone > >> does as a volunteer is an > >> important contribution. > >> > >> I can't fault you for wanting to get on with other > >> things, and I can't fault > >> you for your frustration with the number of books > >> you have ready for > >> approval. Guess I'm saying, don't go from one > >> extreme to the other. Get on > >> with your work as a proof reader and medical > >> transcriber, but don't give it > >> up altogether on Bookshare. > >> > >> My apologies to the rest of the list, but I think > >> per haps what I said to > >> Mickey may be of benefit to others. I know I > >> thought it was pretty cool. > >> > >> "Of all the things I've ever lost, I miss my mind > >> the most." > >> Ernie > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "mickey" <micka@xxxxxxxxxx> > >> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 3:46 PM > >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Sad decision > >> > >> > >> > HHi, Scott. > >> > > >> > I would bet, first of all, that I have 15 books in > >> the admin queue. I've > >> > done several books, which were already in the > >> admin queue, so they didn't > >> > need two copies. > >> > > >> > I believe in Bookshare, would like to work for it, > >> but can't spend 10 or > >> > 15 hours on a book, to find that it got approved > >> the day before I finished > >> > it. That tends to be very discouraging. > >> > > >> > I am a proofreader by profession, and keep busy > >> with that and my course. > >> > Maybe it's time to just work on that. > >> > > >> > I'll keep looking to see if anything I've done > >> needs extra work. > >> > > >> > I hope to be back soon. > >> > > >> > Mickey > >> > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: "Scott Blanks" <scottsjb@xxxxxxxxx> > >> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 3:39 PM > >> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Sad decision > >> > > >> > > >> >> I'm curious to know how the validations were a > >> waste of your time? I'm > >> >> asking mostly because I didn't understand your > >> explanation. What has > >> >> disappointed you? > >> >> > >> >> Scott > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> >> From: "mickey" <micka@xxxxxxxxxx> > >> >> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 11:32 AM > >> >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Sad decision > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>> Hi, Group. > >> >>> > >> >>> This is my third year of volunteering with > >> Bookshare. I think it's a > >> >>> great source of wonderful reading material of > >> all types. > >> >>> > >> >>> However, I know that the Palo Alto center is > >> understaffed, that they're > >> >>> behind. But in the past month I've validated or > >> nearly validated books > >> >>> that were in the administrative queue, which > >> ended up being a total > >> >>> waste of my time. I read a book thoroughly, > >> making corrections when I > >> >>> can as well as spellchecking. > >> >>> > >> >>> It's impossible to know what is being done, or > >> what has been done--both > >> >>> for the scanner and the validator. > >> >>> > >> >>> I'm taking a course in medical transcribing, > >> plus working, and can't > >> >>> afford to spin my wheels. > >> >>> > >> >>> So, for now, I'll stop volunteering. I'll keep > >> abreast of things, in > >> >>> case things get better, but I'm returning the > >> books I've taken to > >> >>> validate. > >> >>> > >> >>> It's been good working with you all. Thanks. > >> >>> > >> >>> Mickey > >> >>> > >> >>> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email > >> to > >> >>> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> >>> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the > >> subject line. 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