[bksvol-discuss] Re: Sad decision

  • From: "Kaitlyn" <kaitlyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 05:25:15 -0800

Hi 

Yes, Ernie is a good guy! I have spoken with him more than once. I think he
thinks I am the Bookshare techline, LOL:) 


Katie Hill
No one is given a dream without also being given the power to make it come
true

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of siss52
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 8:21 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Sad decision


Ernie,

I am not Cindy, but just HAD to tell you how much I enjoyed this message.
Your wife, family and friends must really value your sense of humor!
<<<lol>  Keep making us laugh with the humor you include in your posts.

Sue S.

----- Original Message -----
From: "k4zq" <k4zq@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 8:29 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Sad decision


> Hi Cindy,
>
> Well, your point is a good one, but it's like saying that one plate in a
> china pattern can stand by itself.  It can, but any good wife will tell
you
> (which mine has) that one plate does not a pattern make.
>
> If I'm studying western civ history, and I stop with the assassination of
> Julius Caesar, the material I have covered is accurate, but you can't
really
> call my study complete.  For example, I won't know a lot about Elvis.
>
> As for the Norton, I'm coming more and more to the thought that rejection
is
> the way to go with this one.  There are 3 reasons: there are some missing
> pages already, and I'm on page 23.  2, this is only volume I which means
> that somebody's gonna miss McBeth--or think that nobody's written anything
> since say
> Chaucer, and 3, since there are practically 2 editions later, somebody
with
> a lot of time and nothing else to do, may decide to scan one of 'em.
>
> Actually, I think I'll take the politically correct course, and just
release
> it back; for as my friend Katie will tell you, gods know I wouldn't offend
> anybody for the world.  Somebody took a lot of effort to scan this thing,
> and if I'm right, she's already frustrated with the system.  If it was the
> other individual, he's probably a really cool guy, and I don't wannaa be
> accused of saying "Do it better, Kid."
>
> For now, gotta go eat, so I'll validate this and send it you.  "Of all the
> things I've ever lost, I miss my mind the most.
> Ernie
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 2:18 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Sad decision
>
>
> >I do enjoy your posts, Ernie. You have a positive
> > attitude and always lighten what you say with a
> > chuckle-causing line or two.
> >
> > A collection like the Norton Anthology really can't
> > said to be only half the book, since volume one is
> > complete in itself and volume two probably has later
> > masterpieces of literature and will be complete in
> > itself. Anyway, hopefully someone will scan volume
> > two.
> >
> > Cindy
> >
> > --- k4zq <k4zq@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Mickey,
> >>
> >> You know that I am pretty new to this whole
> >> Bookshare thing, but let me just
> >> share a bit with you.
> >>
> >> Seems to me that Bookshare is in flux at the moment.
> >>  However, the staff
> >> positions seem to be getting filled.
> >>
> >> Whenever I look at the news at the top of the
> >> bookshare page, the number of
> >> available books keeps going up.  The only conclusion
> >> I can reach is that
> >> somebody is doing something.
> >>
> >> Sounds as though you have a lot of books that are
> >> ready for approval, but
> >> it's taking time.  Well, in my short time, I've
> >> picked up three books for
> >> validation; 1 wouldn't upload when I finished it, 1
> >> had missing copyright
> >> info, and each chapter was in a different file, and
> >> the last one has missing
> >> pages.  It is also an earlier edition of a book
> >> whose newest edition is
> >> coming out in 2006.  It also is only half the book
> >> since it is in 2 volumes,
> >> and only vol I is available.
> >>
> >> Frustrating, right.  Besides, I have a hell of a lot
> >> of things I could be
> >> reading.  At this point, I'm waiting for some
> >> comments on the list to see
> >> whether I should proceed with this validation, or
> >> just reject the book and
> >> hope for a later scan.
> >>
> >> fifteen hours a week is a lot of time to be putting
> >> into an activity which
> >> seems to be bearing little fruit.  Might I suggest
> >> that you just back off
> >> considerably, say to 3 hours a week or so, rather
> >> than just going away.  It
> >> may seem that your work for Bookshare is not
> >> appreciated, but that's not so
> >> at all.
> >>
> >> Bookshare is primarily our organization, and it
> >> always will be what we make
> >> it.  The professional staff can only do so much, and
> >> the rest is up to us to
> >> keep it growing.  That means that whatever anyone
> >> does as a volunteer is an
> >> important contribution.
> >>
> >> I can't fault you for wanting to get on with other
> >> things, and I can't fault
> >> you for your frustration with the number of books
> >> you have ready for
> >> approval.  Guess I'm saying, don't go from one
> >> extreme to the other.  Get on
> >> with your work as a proof reader and medical
> >> transcriber, but don't give it
> >> up altogether on Bookshare.
> >>
> >> My apologies to the rest of the list, but I think
> >> per haps what I said to
> >> Mickey may be of benefit to others.  I know I
> >> thought it was pretty cool.
> >>
> >> "Of all the things I've ever lost, I miss my mind
> >> the most."
> >> Ernie
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "mickey" <micka@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 3:46 PM
> >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Sad decision
> >>
> >>
> >> > HHi, Scott.
> >> >
> >> > I would bet, first of all, that I have 15 books in
> >> the admin queue. I've
> >> > done several books, which were already in the
> >> admin queue, so they didn't
> >> > need two copies.
> >> >
> >> > I believe in Bookshare, would like to work for it,
> >> but can't spend 10 or
> >> > 15 hours on a book, to find that it got approved
> >> the day before I finished
> >> > it. That tends to be very discouraging.
> >> >
> >> > I am a proofreader by profession, and keep busy
> >> with that and my course.
> >> > Maybe it's time to just work on that.
> >> >
> >> > I'll keep looking to see if anything I've done
> >> needs extra work.
> >> >
> >> > I hope to be back soon.
> >> >
> >> > Mickey
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Scott Blanks" <scottsjb@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 3:39 PM
> >> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Sad decision
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> I'm curious to know how the validations were a
> >> waste of your time? I'm
> >> >> asking mostly because I didn't understand your
> >> explanation. What has
> >> >> disappointed you?
> >> >>
> >> >> Scott
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> From: "mickey" <micka@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 11:32 AM
> >> >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Sad decision
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>> Hi, Group.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> This is my third year of volunteering with
> >> Bookshare.  I think it's a
> >> >>> great source of wonderful reading material of
> >> all types.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> However, I know that the Palo Alto center is
> >> understaffed, that they're
> >> >>> behind.  But in the past month I've validated or
> >> nearly validated books
> >> >>> that were in the administrative queue, which
> >> ended up being a total
> >> >>> waste of my time.  I read a book thoroughly,
> >> making corrections when I
> >> >>> can as well as spellchecking.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> It's impossible to know what is being done, or
> >> what has been done--both
> >> >>> for the scanner and the validator.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I'm taking a course in medical transcribing,
> >> plus working, and can't
> >> >>> afford to spin my wheels.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> So, for now, I'll stop volunteering. I'll keep
> >> abreast of things, in
> >> >>> case things get better, but I'm returning the
> >> books I've taken to
> >> >>> validate.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> It's been good working with you all. Thanks.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Mickey
> >> >>>
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