I think I would call it fantasy. The rule I use is this. Science fiction and fantasy both are fiction that contain fantastic elements. By fantastic element I mean a being, object or event that we do not know to exist in the real world that we experience and we may have no reason to believe it to be possible, perhaps even theoretically. If the fantastic elements are assumed in the context of the story to be a part of nature -- that is, the real universe -- or result from manipulation of nature it is science fiction. If the fantastic elements, within the context of the story, are assumed to be supernatural then it is fantasy. A crossover would be a story in which some fantastic elements are natural and others are supernatural. In that case I suppose it would be both science fiction and fantasy, perhaps science fantasy.
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In general I'd like the separation of science fiction and fantasy, though it is sometimes difficult to tell which a book is. I'm currently reading a book by Charles Stross, the Atrocity Archives. In it mathematical proofs can call up demons and open portals to the places where they come from. Is that SF or fantasy. I suppose I could just mark both for that kind of book.Misha On 1/28/2011 8:20 AM, Kim Friedman wrote:Hi, Roger, I agree that science fiction should have its own category as well as fantasy. Horror has its own category and I would, like you, like to see science fiction and fantasy in two categories rather than one. I know there are authors who have written both but I'd like to be able to weed out the fantasy from the Star Wars novels. I know that mystery and thrillers are lumped together. Do you think they should be separated? Say suspense and thrillers and mystery and detective fiction? Come to that, one can really go into details once one starts categorizing. I know there is a category called "Cooking, Food, and wine". I don't object to that, however I think there should be another category called "Diet and Nutrition" to separate it from the cookbooks. Also I'd like fiction that has recipes to be taken from the Cooking, Food, and Wine category and call it Food Fiction, i.e., books where the protagonist has something to do with food and if there are recipes, that can come under that area because the primary focus is the story and food may be part of it but not the whole of it. Regards, Kim Friedman (having a go as nitpicker). -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Roger Loran Bailey Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 7:48 AM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Questions that have surely been answered I think you are suggesting more categories and that would be good. As long as you are making those suggestions, though, let me rant about the most irritating thing about the categories for me. Science fiction and fantasy should be split. If you are going to lump genres together then at least you could lump something that have more to do with each other than science fiction and fantasy. _ _ _ "Everything must justify its existence before the judgment seat of Reason, or give up existence." - Friedrich Engels Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/rogerbailey81 The Militant: http://www.themilitant.com Pathfinder Press: http://www.pathfinderpress.com Granma International: http://www.granma.cu/ingles/index.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Petraccaro"<garyp130@xxxxxxxxxxx> To:<bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 9:14 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Questions that have surely been answered Maybe they could also come up with checkboxes for politics, sociology, and economics. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jamie Yates, CPhT To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 7:44 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Questions that have surely been answered Maybe when engineering gets around to adding the checkbox for pictures are described they could add a checkbox for "this book is held for" a person and then that would trigger it to be on a separate checkout list? Then all of the held for books including the ones used to train new volunteers would not show up on the ready for checkout list? -- Jamie in Michigan Currently Reading: If I Should Die Before I Wake by Han Nolan Earn cash for answering trivia questions every 3 hours: http://instantcashsweepstakes.com/invitations/ref_link/49497 See everything I've read this year at: www.michiganrxtech.com/books.html To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxput the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxput the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.
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