[bksvol-discuss] Re: Question on Scan quality for blind vs other types of disabled bookshare readers

  • From: talmage@xxxxxxxxxx
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  • Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:11:38 -0500

Don't know about which versions it works in, but I suspect it does work in V7.1. To get into the configuration manager hold down the insert key on the numeric keypad and hit F2. If you're in Word at the time, JFW should have the config file for it loaded by default, if not you'll have to load it yourself from the File menu in the manager. That is of course, if you're trying to modify the config files for Word.


Dave



At 05:42 PM 2/5/2008, you wrote:
Hi Lora,

This is a very interesting JAWS option. Do you know if it works with v 7.1? Also, how does one get into the configurations menu?

Best,
Allison



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Actually, JAWS can be set to announce font and color changes.  Before I open
my mouth and insert my foot, I'm trying a little experiment here.  Sighted
readers should see three different colors, and three different fonts, in
this message.

In order to do this, go into the Configuration Manager for Word or Outlook,
and choose the Speech and Sounds Manager from the Settings menu.  In there,
you'll see lots of different sound schemes for working with things like
VB.Net, or the Web.  I chose Proofreading Attributes, Font Info and Color.

Now as I read, JAWS announces the color changes as they occur, and reads
different fonts in different voices.

Sorry to sighted readers if this message looks chaotic . You can make these
same configuration changes in Word or Word Perfect, etc.

The trouble is, in order for this to be effective, you'd have to be reading
the whole book.  If you were, though, font and color changes would be
announced.

What I was hoping was that JAWS had a Quick Keys setting for font change,
but I don't see one.  Then you could just move to the next font change, and
that'd be easy.

You can also use Word's find features to find a specific font, or find a
specific color of text, but for that to be useful, you'd have to know what
you were looking for.

None of this probably helps much, but I thought I'd throw in my two cents.



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Hi Evan,

One option is for blind validators to set the font of the entire book to 11
(or thereabouts). I don't particularly like this option because it's harder
for sighted people to see chapter and section titles when they are the same
size as the regular text, but it is an option.

Just an FYI, Carrie


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I think you're right on this. Being unable to see the screen, I have no idea

how I can be aware of - let alone correct - font problems without checking
the font of every word in the book manually. I have checked the fonts of
headings when scanning or validating books, but for the rest, I just have to

assume the fonts are okay. A person with enough vision to see the screen can

look at a whole page and see that something is out of whack. I don't see how

somewhat with insufficient vision could do anything similar. If I am
mistaken, please let me know. I could, of course, check each page in Word or

K1000 and see what kinds of fonts are on it, and what the sizes are. But as
far as I know, those programs don't tell you which font is where on the
page. So someone who cannot see the screen would need some way of hearing -
on the fly - when the font changes and the new characteristics. Is that
possible? Unless that can be done, or there is another way for someone with
little or no vision to be aware of font problems without a great deal of
time consuming manual checking, it seems unrealistic to expect that books on

Bookshare will have no font problems, as long as people with little or no
vision are submitting or validating them.

Evan

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Hi,
I will add to this that as a blind validator, it would probably be
difficult to correct all font problems. If I am incorrect about this, I am
certainily open to validation help.

Jim

James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc.,
james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810

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Hi Judy

Before telling you my thoughts about your question let me introduce myself
I'm Anastasia; I am legally blind and use a screen enlarger. So I can see
the print but it is straining so I prefer to listen.

Here are my thoughts: I scan in one file type that keeps the format, kes,
and submit it in one that deletes the format. This type, rtf is more
universal. RTF automatically deletes the formats. It is more fluid
listening to it without the format. However, I can understand as someone
who reads print why keeping the format in tact for the recent members
would be beneficial, the only format that keeps the print in tact is KES
and  that is not a universal file. I hope I have answered your question If
you have further questions or would like to further discuss this topic
please email me off list.

Anastasia


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