[bksvol-discuss] Re: Question on Scan quality for blind vs other types of disabled bookshare readers
- From: "Estelnalissi" <airadil@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 18:59:48 -0500
Dear Carrie and Booksharian Friends,
I agree with you, Carrie, that It helps sighted readers, particularly those
with low vision or reading difficulties, to have chapter headings in a font
that stands out from the text.
I standardize the text, by highlighting all of it to the end of the file
starting with the first page of the story.Then as I read through I put chapter
headings in a larger font like size 20 bold. I use my judgment with subheadings
and signs and other material I suspect is enlarged and make it easier to spot
visually by making it size 16 regular.
I think it's easier for sighted readers to visually identify indented
paragraphs so I indent them 3 spaces, knowing I'm really wasting time because I
think the tools omit the indents.
This does lead to a formatting question I've been wondering about. When word is
set to indent the first line, it also indents the page numbers and these are
hard to move to the left margin. The only way I know of doing it is to
highlight enough lines that one line that is flush with the left margin and the
line with the page number are included. Then I alt o and down arrow once to
paragraph and set the margin to left justify, and the values to zero and enter
on OK. That fixes the page number but then I have to indent any paragraphs
which were left justified in the process.
I'm not sure I've explained this very well. On the pages where the first line
of text starts on the left margin, the page number is against the left margin,
too. If the first line is indented, then the page number is directly above that
first word and is indented as well.
I'm not sure if it's a good use of time for me to mess with the settings to
move that page number a few spaces to the left so all of them will uniformly
appear in the first space on the line against the left margin.
Always with love,
Lissi
----- Original Message -----
From: Carrie Karnos
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 5:59 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Question on Scan quality for blind vs other
types of disabled bookshare readers
Hi Evan,
One option is for blind validators to set the font of the entire book to 11
(or thereabouts). I don't particularly like this option because it's harder for
sighted people to see chapter and section titles when they are the same size as
the regular text, but it is an option.
Just an FYI, Carrie
----- Original Message ----
From: EVAN REESE <mentat3@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, February 4, 2008 1:47:46 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Question on Scan quality for blind vs other
types of disabled bookshare readers
I think you're right on this. Being unable to see the screen, I have no idea
how I can be aware of - let alone correct - font problems without checking
the font of every word in the book manually. I have checked the fonts of
headings when scanning or validating books, but for the rest, I just have to
assume the fonts are okay. A person with enough vision to see the screen can
look at a whole page and see that something is out of whack. I don't see how
somewhat with insufficient vision could do anything similar. If I am
mistaken, please let me know. I could, of course, check each page in Word or
K1000 and see what kinds of fonts are on it, and what the sizes are. But as
far as I know, those programs don't tell you which font is where on the
page. So someone who cannot see the screen would need some way of hearing -
on the fly - when the font changes and the new characteristics. Is that
possible? Unless that can be done, or there is another way for someone with
little or no vision to be aware of font problems without a great deal of
time consuming manual checking, it seems unrealistic to expect that books on
Bookshare will have no font problems, as long as people with little or no
vision are submitting or validating them.
Evan
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From: <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 8:55 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Question on Scan quality for blind vs other
types of disabled bookshare readers
> Hi,
> I will add to this that as a blind validator, it would probably be
> difficult to correct all font problems. If I am incorrect about this, I am
> certainily open to validation help.
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> Jim
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> Before telling you my thoughts about your question let me introduce myself
> I'm Anastasia; I am legally blind and use a screen enlarger. So I can see
> the print but it is straining so I prefer to listen.
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> Here are my thoughts: I scan in one file type that keeps the format, kes,
> and submit it in one that deletes the format. This type, rtf is more
> universal. RTF automatically deletes the formats. It is more fluid
> listening to it without the format. However, I can understand as someone
> who reads print why keeping the format in tact for the recent members
> would be beneficial, the only format that keeps the print in tact is KES
> and that is not a universal file. I hope I have answered your question If
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