[bksvol-discuss] Re: Question for John Boyer

John the bookshare staff has not dealt with it in the six years I have been a volunteer. Hence my questions.


In future, please point out that your ideas are those of a volunteer rather than staff even though you consult with bookshare staff.

Identifying yourself and your ideas will avoid confusion among already confused volunteers.

Please take this in the kind way I intend it rather than as criticism.

E.


At 11:04 PM 5/20/2008, you wrote:
This is a matter for the Bookshare staff to deal with. I only know what
worked in my own transcribing operation.

John

On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 06:26:57PM -0700, Grandma Cindy wrote:
> John,
>
> I use a word processor--Microsoft Word for the Mac--But I don't understand what you mean by a style sheet. The only time I've ever used style sheets was in college when writing term papers. I don't write articles for publications now; I just proofread books for bookshare and try to make them as close to print books as possible, given the limitations of bookshare. So please, to what style sheets are you referring?
>
> > G. Cindy,
> >
> > John
> >
> > On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 12:23:55AM -0700, Grandma Cindy
> > wrote:
> > > John,
> > >
> > > What does that mean? What style sheet, or will we be
> > given one? We scan and validate according to the print
> > book. Do you mean that we can leave blank lines between
> > sections without indicating them by asterisks? And if this
> > is the case, when should be start? How can we not format
> > manually?
> > >
> > > G.Cindy
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Mon, 5/19/08, John J. Boyer
> > <john.boyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > > From: John J. Boyer
> > <john.boyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Another Question
> > for Braille Readers
> > > > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Date: Monday, May 19, 2008, 11:26 PM
> > > > I'm doing some development work for Benetech,
> > and I know
> > > > that they are
> > > > considering replacing the Bookshare braille
> > translator. The
> > > > new
> > > > translator will put in blank lines where there
> > required by
> > > > braille
> > > > codes. It will, however, depend on word
> > processors being
> > > > used
> > > > correctly, that is, with their style sheets,
> > rather than
> > > > trying to
> > > > format things manually.
> > > >
> > > > John
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 10:56:00PM -0400,
> > Estelnalissi
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Dear John,
> > > > >
> > > > > Bookshare tools handle braille translation
> > differently
> > > > so we do all we can
> > > > > to insure the print formatting is correctly
> > > > represented in braille. Also,
> > > > > Bookshare's braille translation program
> > is many
> > > > years out of date and
> > > > > doesn't preserve all of the formatting
> > nuances and
> > > > punctuation marks more
> > > > > up-to-date programs can handle.
> > > > >
> > > > > Always with love,
> > > > >
> > > > > Lissi
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "John J. Boyer"
> > > > <john.boyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 10:40 PM
> > > > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Another
> > Question for
> > > > Braille Readers
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >I used to run a braille transcribing
> > operation. My
> > > > instructions to my
> > > > > >workers were to produce a good
> > word-processing
> > > > file. Inserting blank
> > > > > >lines and Indentation is the business of
> > the
> > > > braille transcription
> > > > > >software. If you try to do that on your
> > own you
> > > > are likely to produce
> > > > > >undesirable effects in the braille
> > output. So use
> > > > your word poocessor's
> > > > > >stylesheet for headings, etc.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >John
> > > > > >
> > > > > >On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 01:08:00PM
> > -0700, Darrell
> > > > Shandrow wrote:
> > > > > >>Hi Allison,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>I like blank lines before and after
> > headings,
> > > > even with a Braille
> > > > > >>display,
> > > > > >>as that's really the only way to
> > know a
> > > > heading exists.  Though I like
> > > > > >>blank
> > > > > >>lines before and after bulleted and
> > numbered
> > > > lists, I do not like them
> > > > > >>between items; just list the items
> > one per
> > > > line.  :-)
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Thanks.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >>From: "Allison Hilliker"
> > > > <hillikera@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > >>To:
> > <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > >>Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 12:50 PM
> > > > > >>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Another
> > Question for
> > > > Braille Readers
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Hi Everyone,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>I do read Braille, but I don't
> > always know
> > > > if my own opinion reflects
> > > > > >>that
> > > > > >>of the majority, so once in a while
> > I ask
> > > > questions here.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>I'm validating a book that has a
> > lot of
> > > > headings and almost no blank
> > > > > >>lines
> > > > > >>separating them.  I know that when
> > I'm
> > > > rereading hardcopy Braille, it's
> > > > > >>great
> > > > > >>to have the headings separated with
> > blank
> > > > lines, but the experience isn't
> > > > > >>the same with a Braille display.  Do
> > those of
> > > > you reading with displays
> > > > > >>still like to have the headings
> > separated by
> > > > blank lines?  I've been
> > > > > >>doing
> > > > > >>that, but if it doesn't make a
> > big
> > > > difference then I won't.  Also, what
> > > > > >>about numbered lists, do you like a
> > blank line
> > > > after each numbered item?
> > > > > >>How about bulleted lists?  I've
> > been
> > > > changing the bullets into stars upon
> > > > > >>the suggestion of many of you on
> > this list,
> > > > but I hadn't asked about the
> > > > > >>blank lines before.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>All feedback is welcome.  It
> > won't lead to
> > > > any official Bookshare policy,
> > > > > >>this is just for my own reference.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Thanks,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Allison
> > > > > >>
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> > > > > >--
> > > > > >John J. boyer; President, Chief Software
> > Developer
> > > > > >JJB Software, Inc.
> > > > > >http://www.jjb-software.com
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http://www.jjb-software.com
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