[bksvol-discuss] Re: Question for Braille Readers
- From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 07:56:15 -0500
The sign for bullet I have seen would seem to be difficult to
duplicate. Besides, there are a bunch of different types of them.
Cindy Lou
Cindy Lou Ray. Each day is a new adventure.
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From: "rita weyler" <ritaweyler@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 6:46 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Question for Braille Readers
The braille conversion program seems to change the elipsis to periods
At
least that is what I have seen so far. The periods have a space
between
them. Their is a sign for bullets because I have seen it in my school
work
but I can't tell you what it is at the moment.
Hope this helps.
Rita
Hope this helps a litt.e
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From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray@xxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 8:58 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Question for Braille Readers
> The elipsis is a bigger problem. I thought they were kade in print
> with three periods togeher ... and that is how translation software
> translates, or at least mine. If it sees that, then most of the time
> it translates it into a braille elipsis, which is made with three
> apostrophes. However, I've lately learned that they are actually
> made
> with . . . (spaces between the periods.) I think that was actually
> taught me in a writing class, but I'm not sure. So, if you want to
> make it right or the braille readers, you just about have to make it
> wrong for print readers. I have a problem with this, but I do see
> this
> as a problem much thornier and more about compromising a book if
> that
> is how you are really supposed to write one of those.
>
> Cindy Lou Ray. Each day is a new adventure.
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> From: "Devorah Greenstein" <DGreenstein@xxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 8:50 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Question for Braille Readers
>
>
> It took me a matter of seconds to replace all my em dashes with
> hyphen
> hyphen with no spaces. So I will happily continue to do that as part
> of
> validating. Now another question. What about ellipses in Braille?
> That's
> the three periods in a row. And what happens with bullets? My next
> book
> has bullets. Is Braille happy with them?
>
> Thanks,
> Devorah
>
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> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mayrie
> ReNae
> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 7:03 PM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Question for Braille Readers
>
> Hi Allison,
>
> I'll add here that the bookshare conversion tools will turn
> the em dash, which should be represented in braille by two hyphens
> side by side with no surrounding spaces to a single hyphen unless
> you
> replace the em dashes in your books with two hyphens. This
> discussion comes up again and again and I, personally, want,
> especially, the books that I submit that are geared to non-adults to
> come out in accurate braille. I want young readers never to think
> that the appropriate representation of a pause in writing should be
> by typing a hyphen which they might, if em dashes are not replaced
> with double hyphens.
>
> Just myopinion again and again.
>
> Peace,
> Mayrie
>
> At 02:08 PM 3/24/2008, you wrote:
>>In braille the thing should read as two hyphens with no s[paces
>>between the two words so one--two is how it should read.
>>
>>Cindy
>>
>>Cindy Lou Ray. Each day is a new adventure.
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Allison Hilliker" <bookshare_girl@xxxxxxx>
>>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 3:39 PM
>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Question for Braille Readers
>>
>>
>>Hi everyone,
>>
>>Quick question for Braille-readers. I do read Braille myself, but
>>I've
>>never paid attention to this issue before. I'm validating a book
>>with
>>a lot
>>of em dashes. They look like this. - They usually connect two words
>>like
>>this. word1-word2. They do not usually have spaces around them. In
>>the
>>past I have left them as is in the books I validate.
>>
>>My question is, should I be doing anything special with the em
>>dashes
>>in
>>order to make them easily read in Braille? I've never known there
>>to
>>be a
>>special Braille character for the em dash, but there may be one.
>>Does
>>it
>>just look
>>like a regular dash, or something else? Do they appear with spaces
>>around
>>them or not? Would most of you prefer me to add spaces, change the
>>em
>>dashes to regular dashes, leave them alone, or something else?
>>
>>Thanks for any feedback you can give.
>>
>>Best,
>>
>>Allison
>>
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