[bksvol-discuss] Re: Question for Braille Readers

I think it will still create the three apostrophes, but they just won't be separated from the words. It will still look better than three dis signs with spaces in between.


Evan

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That won't produce right in braille, but then I've seen them so many
ways in print that I begin to find that my mind is boggled.
Cindy Lou

Cindy Lou Ray. Each day is a new adventure.
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I believe we were told recently to make it three
periods with no space between them and no space on
either side, and so I've been changing them to that.

G.Cindy

--- Cindy Ray <cindyray@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

The elipsis is a bigger problem. I thought they were
kade in print
with three periods togeher ... and that is how
translation software
translates, or at least mine. If it sees that, then
most of the time
it translates it into a braille elipsis, which is
made with three
apostrophes. However, I've lately learned that they
are actually made
with . . . (spaces between the periods.) I think
that was actually
taught me in a writing class, but I'm not sure. So,
if you want to
make it right or the braille readers, you just about
have to make it
wrong for print readers. I have a problem with this,
but I do see this
as a problem much thornier and more about
compromising a book if that
is how you are really supposed to write one of
those.

Cindy Lou Ray. Each day is a new adventure.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Devorah Greenstein" <DGreenstein@xxxxxxx>
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Readers


It took me a matter of seconds to replace all my em
dashes with hyphen
hyphen with no spaces. So I will happily continue to
do that as part
of
validating. Now another question. What about
ellipses in Braille?
That's
the three periods in a row. And what happens with
bullets? My next
book
has bullets. Is Braille happy with them?

Thanks,
Devorah

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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Mayrie ReNae
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 7:03 PM
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Question for Braille
Readers

Hi Allison,

         I'll add here that the bookshare conversion
tools will turn
the em dash, which should be represented in braille
by two hyphens
side by side with no surrounding spaces to a single
hyphen unless you
replace the em dashes in  your books with two
hyphens.  This
discussion comes up again and again and I,
personally, want,
especially, the books that I submit that are geared
to non-adults to
come out in accurate braille.  I want  young readers
never to think
that the appropriate representation of a pause in
writing should be
by typing a hyphen which they might, if em dashes
are not replaced
with double hyphens.

Just myopinion again and again.

Peace,
Mayrie

At 02:08 PM 3/24/2008, you wrote:
>In braille the thing should read as two hyphens
with no s[paces
>between the two words so one--two is how it should
read.
>
>Cindy
>
>Cindy Lou Ray. Each day is a new adventure.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Allison Hilliker" <bookshare_girl@xxxxxxx>
>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 3:39 PM
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Question for Braille
Readers
>
>
>Hi everyone,
>
>Quick question for Braille-readers.  I do read
Braille myself, but
>I've
>never paid attention to this issue before.  I'm
validating a book
>with
>a lot
>of em dashes.  They look like this. - They usually
connect two words
>like
>this. word1-word2.  They do not usually have spaces
around them.  In
>the
>past I have left them as is in the books I
validate.
>
>My question is, should I be doing anything special
with the em dashes
>in
>order to make them easily read in Braille?  I've
never known there to
>be a
>special Braille character for the em dash, but
there may be one.
>Does
>it
>just look
>like a regular dash, or something else?  Do they
appear with spaces
>around
>them or not?  Would most of you prefer me to add
spaces, change the
>em
>dashes to regular dashes, leave them alone, or
something else?
>
>Thanks for any feedback you can give.
>
>Best,
>
>Allison
>
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