[bksvol-discuss] Re: Question for Braille Readers
- From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 06:18:08 -0500
No, you don't change the elipsis to three apostrophes. If the three
periods don't have spaces between them, then the braille software, or
most of it, does that in the braille.
Cindy Lou
Cindy Lou Ray. Each day is a new adventure.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob" <rwiley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 9:57 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Question for Braille Readers
I have a major problem with changing ellipsis for Braille readers.
I can go along with the two hyphens for the - because they look
similar.
However, to correctly change an ellipse (.) into Braille you have to
change
it to three apostrophes which doesn't look like anything but three
apostrophes in print. Wrong! Wrong! Wrong! Braille is not the only
medium
used for bookshare books, and Braille users shouldn't force speech and
print
users to change their way of seeing things for our sakes.
As far as bullets go, I'm not sure what the software does to a bullet,
but
I'll bet it isn't pretty *smile*. I think I would just leave bullets
alone.
My new validating philosophy is, if I don't know what a change will
do, then
I won't make it.
Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: "Devorah Greenstein" <DGreenstein@xxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 8:50 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Question for Braille Readers
> It took me a matter of seconds to replace all my em dashes with
> hyphen
> hyphen with no spaces. So I will happily continue to do that as part
> of
> validating. Now another question. What about ellipses in Braille?
> That's
> the three periods in a row. And what happens with bullets? My next
> book
> has bullets. Is Braille happy with them?
>
> Thanks,
> Devorah
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mayrie
> ReNae
> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 7:03 PM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Question for Braille Readers
>
> Hi Allison,
>
> I'll add here that the bookshare conversion tools will turn
> the em dash, which should be represented in braille by two hyphens
> side by side with no surrounding spaces to a single hyphen unless
> you
> replace the em dashes in your books with two hyphens. This
> discussion comes up again and again and I, personally, want,
> especially, the books that I submit that are geared to non-adults to
> come out in accurate braille. I want young readers never to think
> that the appropriate representation of a pause in writing should be
> by typing a hyphen which they might, if em dashes are not replaced
> with double hyphens.
>
> Just myopinion again and again.
>
> Peace,
> Mayrie
>
> At 02:08 PM 3/24/2008, you wrote:
>>In braille the thing should read as two hyphens with no s[paces
>>between the two words so one--two is how it should read.
>>
>>Cindy
>>
>>Cindy Lou Ray. Each day is a new adventure.
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Allison Hilliker" <bookshare_girl@xxxxxxx>
>>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 3:39 PM
>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Question for Braille Readers
>>
>>
>>Hi everyone,
>>
>>Quick question for Braille-readers. I do read Braille myself, but
>>I've
>>never paid attention to this issue before. I'm validating a book
>>with
>>a lot
>>of em dashes. They look like this. - They usually connect two words
>>like
>>this. word1-word2. They do not usually have spaces around them. In
>>the
>>past I have left them as is in the books I validate.
>>
>>My question is, should I be doing anything special with the em
>>dashes
>>in
>>order to make them easily read in Braille? I've never known there
>>to
>>be a
>>special Braille character for the em dash, but there may be one.
>>Does
>>it
>>just look
>>like a regular dash, or something else? Do they appear with spaces
>>around
>>them or not? Would most of you prefer me to add spaces, change the
>>em
>>dashes to regular dashes, leave them alone, or something else?
>>
>>Thanks for any feedback you can give.
>>
>>Best,
>>
>>Allison
>>
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