[bksvol-discuss] Re: Question
- From: "Evan Reese" <mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 12:18:52 -0500
No, they are not removed by the proofreader. They are left on the pages that do
not have lower case Roman numerals on them.
Evan
From: ohio1803@xxxxx
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 12:01 PM
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Question
Say, thank you, Roger, for taking the time to further explain this.
I get it now, I think. Or this is how it seems.
The uppercase Roman numerals are to distinguish them from the lower case ones
which are already on the page, thus I guess we at Bookshare will know and be
able to distinguish that.
So then are they removed by the validators?
Just curious.
When I do my next scan for submission, I will try and remember this new (to
me), piece of instruction.
Thanks again, everybody.
Rik
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Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2014 5:58 PM
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Question
I don't know what it accomplishes for the reader either. I am just repeating
what was said on this list once in the past when the question came up. As I
understand the rule it goes like this. Books frequently have pages numbered
with Roman numerals before the page numbered 1 with Arabic numerals. Most often
those pages are numbered with lower case Roman numerals up to the point that
Arabic numerals begin. By the way, I have always disliked that and I disliked
it back when I was reading print books with my eyes. It has just always seemed
fit and proper to me that the first page of a book should be page one. However,
that is not how many, many books are numbered. When those preliminary pages are
numbered with lower case Roman numerals we are supposed to retain them. If
there are no Roman numerals or any other kind of numerals on the pages before
the beginning of the Arabic numerals with the Arabic numeral1 we are supposed
to number them with lower case Arabic numerals ourselves. On occasion there
will be preliminary pages that are numbered with lower case Roman numerals up
to Arabic numeral1, but before Roman numeral i there will be even more pages
that are not numbered at all. Once before the question of how to number those
pages came up on this list. We were instructed to number those prepreliminary
pages with capitol Roman numerals I, II, III and so forth up to the page that
is numbered with lower case Roman numeral i.
On 11/27/2014 3:18 PM, ohio1803@xxxxx wrote:
I am wishing for clarification here.
wrote:
Pages preceding the Roman numeral pages in lower case should be numbered
with a separate sequence of capitalized Roman numerals.
This does not completely make sense to me.
First is it a scanning question, or is it a validator’s question?
Does this mean when you ADD an uppercase Roman numeral?
Or also when you are just moving it from say the bottom to top of the page?
I don’t remember hearing about it either.
And I have not noticed it in books as I read them, to hear 2 roman numerals
on a numbered pages.
I would like to hear what this is exactly accomplishing for the reader or
whatever.
Thanks.
Rik
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Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2014 12:36 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Question
I don't know when it started, but my own knowledge of it comes from
discussion on this list from a long time ago. How long, I don't remember.
On 11/27/2014 2:19 PM, Susan Lumpkin wrote:
Cindy, I didn’t know that either and haven’t seen anything about it before.
I’ve never done that in the past. I wonder when this started?
Susan
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cindy Rosenthal
Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2014 1:43 AM
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Interesting. I didn't know that. I better save that info in my file of such
things. Thanks, Roger
Cindy
On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 4:38 PM, Roger Loran Bailey
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Pages preceding the Roman numeral pages in lower case should be numbered
with a separate sequence of capitalized Roman numerals.
On 11/26/2014 4:07 PM, Kim Friedman wrote:
Hi, I'm about to start a project. There are Roman numerals in my file and
the first one is I (in this case it doesn't have a capital letter which is
how Bookshare specifies). My question is how does one number a page before
Roman numeral I? Regards, Kim Friedman.
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