[bksvol-discuss] Re: Puzzling Problem
- From: "siss52" <siss52@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 15:39:59 -0500
I was referring to some hard copy Braille books. But then, I haven't paid
any attention to that in a long time.
Sue S.
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From: EVAN REESE
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Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 2:33 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Puzzling Problem
Hmmm, I hadn't noticed that. I'm looking at the copy of
The Fellowship of the Ring on my Pac Mate right now that I got from Web
Braille, and its preliminary Roman numeral pages are lowercase. Also, I can
tell you that in the print books I've seen, the Roman numerals are in
lowercase.
Evan
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From: siss52
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Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 2:14 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Puzzling Problem
In NLS Braille books the Roman numerals are always in caps.
Sue S.
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From: Bob
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Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 12:38 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Puzzling Problem
Sure there's lower-case roman numerals. They are the ones not in caps.
I think many books begin their books with lower-case roman numerals. But,
don't know for sure.
Besides, it's just a suggestion, do it, don't do it, do some of it. It's
your call.
Bob
"We know the future will outlast all of us, but I believe that all of us
will live on in the future we make,"
Senator Edward M. Kennedy
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From: Jill O'Connell
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Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 11:46 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Puzzling Problem
Mayrie, I'm curious to know what census came up with the idea of lower
case Roman numerals; is there even such a thing?
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From: Mayrie ReNae
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Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 5:05 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Puzzling Problem
Hi Lori,
It isn't exact, but I have experienced what you are talking about.
I just number backward from roman numeral ix and if there are pages before
roman numeral i, well, then, I just leave them unnumbered.
Often there are pages before what the publisher seemed to consider
the first page of the book containing raves and things like that that they
seem not to consider pages.
Why do we number the preliminary pages? Because it makes sense, I
guess. And I assume that if the publisher actually numbered a page ix, then
it seems sensible that said publisher considered, or even did (but they
didn't scan) number the pages before that page with the preceding roman
numerals.
This is not a step required by bookshare. Remember that bookshare
only requires that a book have all of its pages, an accurate copyright page
and title page, and 90% of page breaks, with the 90% of page numbers being
in the works to be required. The rest of what we have written about in our
documentation for proofreading and scanning are the things that a concensus
of quite a few people consider the best way to create the most readable
books possible. Since bookshare only requires the things I've mentioned
above, as Bob says, I guess the rest are just suggestions.
I do want to say that a lot of experience and conversation did go
into creating the suggestions that we created. And we didn't decide anything
just because we felt like making more work for ourselves or for other
people.
I'm sorry everything isn't exact and set in stone. Or anywhere
near perfect in every single situation.
Mayrie
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lori Castner
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 4:11 AM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Puzzling Problem
Hi, Everyone,
I have a very minor puzzling situation in a book I'm proofreading.
In one of the newer documents on what to do as a proofreader, it
states that we are to number preliminary pages with lower case Roman
numerals beginning with i.
However, in this book I am proofing, the acknowledgments begin on IX
(Roman numeral nine), but there are ten actual pages before the
acknowledgments begin. One is a blank page which I can remove, but even so
there will still be nine preliminary pages before the first page with a page
number, Roman numeral nine. Do I begin my lower case numerals with zero--is
there a Roman numeral for zero?
And why are we numbering these unnumbered preliminary pages anyway?
Bob, I'm waiting for a humorous answer from you, but also seriously
what do I do when the number of unnumbered pages is greater than the lower
case numerals?
Lori C.
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