[bksvol-discuss] Re: Puzzling Problem

  • From: "EVAN REESE" <mentat3@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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  • Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 15:16:45 -0400

If it scans, I'm not going to eliminate it.

Evan

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  I think those pages you mention that just have things like praise for the 
author are just advertising, otherwise known as blurb, and so are not really 
part of the book proper. I would say that they can just be eliminated just as 
you would eliminate a magazine advertisement for the book by simply not putting 
it in in the first place.

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  That is something I neglected to mention. In those books I have scanned with 
Roman pages, there are usually--I am tempted to say always--more preliminary
  pages than can be accounted for by the roman-numbered pages, whenever the 
publisher starts putting them in. If there is praise for the author, or other
  stuff like that, the mismatch can be larger than a page or two. Then, that 
mismatch is added to if you scan the dust jacket. If deleting an extra title
  page, and the blank page before or after it--if the book has those--won't fix 
the numbering, then I just leave it. I will not delete anything that scans
  beyond an extra title page and perhaps a blank page, whether it is considered 
core content or not. 

  Evan 

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  Mayrie ReNae 

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  Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 8:05 AM

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  Hi Lori,     

  It isn't exact, but I have experienced what you are talking about.  I just 
number backward from roman numeral ix and if there are pages before roman 
numeral
  i, well, then, I just leave them unnumbered.     

  Often there are pages before what the publisher seemed to consider the first 
page of the book containing raves and things like that that they seem not to
  consider pages.     

  Why do we number the preliminary pages?  Because it makes sense, I guess.  
And I assume that if the publisher actually numbered a page ix, then it seems
  sensible that said publisher considered, or even did (but they didn't scan) 
number the pages before that page with the preceding roman numerals.     

  This is not a step required by bookshare.  Remember that bookshare only 
requires that a book have all of its pages, an accurate copyright page and title
  page, and 90% of page breaks, with the 90% of page numbers being in the works 
to be required.  The rest of what we have written about in our documentation
  for proofreading and scanning are the things that a concensus of quite a few 
people consider the best way to create the most readable books possible. 
  Since bookshare only requires the things I've mentioned above, as Bob says, I 
guess the rest are just suggestions.       

  I do want to say that a lot of experience and conversation did go into 
creating the suggestions that we created. And we didn't decide anything just 
because
  we felt like making more work for ourselves or for other people. 

      I'm sorry everything isn't exact and set in stone. Or anywhere near 
perfect in every single situation.   

  Mayrie  

  
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lori Castner
  Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 4:11 AM
  To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Puzzling Problem

  Hi, Everyone, 

  I have a very minor puzzling situation in a book I'm proofreading. 

  In one of the newer documents on what to do as a proofreader, it states that 
we are to number preliminary pages with lower case Roman numerals beginning
  with i. 

  However, in this book I am proofing, the acknowledgments begin on IX (Roman 
numeral nine), but there are ten actual pages before the acknowledgments begin. 
  One is a blank page which I can remove, but even so there will still be nine 
preliminary pages before the first page with a page number, Roman numeral
  nine.  Do I begin my lower case numerals with zero--is there a Roman numeral 
for zero? 

  And why are we numbering these unnumbered preliminary pages anyway? 

  Bob, I'm waiting for a humorous answer from you, but also seriously what do I 
do when the number of unnumbered pages is greater than the lower case numerals? 

  Lori C. 

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