I didn't necessarily know that they were called optional hyphens, but what I think you are saying is that they are the hyphens that occur at the end of a line to indicate that the word is continued on the next line. Those have to be eliminated by the submitter or the proofreader as far as I am concerned. Even worse are the ones that appear at the end of a page. "Philosophers have merely interpreted the world in various ways; the point is to change it." Karl Marx table with 2 columns and 6 rows Subj: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Proofreader's Checklist -- send me your ideas Date: 3/15/2009 8:58:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx Reply-to: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent from the Internet (Details) table end Hi Denise, I think the optional hyphen is the hyphen that appears at the end of a line of text in the print book, but since when you OCR the lines aren't the same length as they were in the printed book necessarily, those remaining hyphens from the printed text in the book are optional. Does that make sense? I feel like I've botched that description somehow. Mayrie -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Denise Wagner Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 5:53 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Proofreader's Checklist -- send me your ideas What's an optional hyphen! Denise -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mayrie ReNae Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:19 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Proofreader's Checklist -- send me your ideas Hi Jamie and all, I'm so glad that you mentioned optional hyphens! I have my OCR automatically remove those, so forgot completely that they can be a problem. They aren't even on my list of stuff to worry about, which isn't a good idea for anyone else using my list of things that I do. I love good advice! Mayrie -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jamie Yates Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 2:19 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Proofreader's Checklist -- send me your ideas I change optional hyphens (^- in word) to nothing. I also change tabs to spaces but not until I've done a "find" to look for the tabs, because often where there is a tab is a problem spot in the scanning. Sometimes the page scanned crooked and the text is a little off or has lots of hard returns in it where there are a lot of tabs. In word I also look for al occurences of -^p (hyphen hard return) and fix those. Mayrie will have a good list for you that she regularly uses. -- Jamie in Michigan Currently Reading: Lost: The Search for Six of Six Million by Daniel Mendelsohn www.michrxtech.com/books.html To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. ************** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220439616x1201372437/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62)