[bksvol-discuss] Re: Possible book quality issue

  • From: "Julia" <julia.kulak@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 20:08:08 -0500

I really don't know how that happened. I know you wouldn't send it in that way, none of us on this list would for that matter.

Julia
----- Original Message ----- From: "Laura Ann" <agapetouchmassage@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 11:56 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Possible book quality issue


Thank you Sue,
I appreciate that.
Laura Ann
At 09:04 AM 1/3/2009, you wrote:
Laura Ann,
Your scans are great, so can't imagine what was up with this one.

Sue S.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Laura Ann" <agapetouchmassage@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 8:00 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Possible book quality issue


I hope so and that I am not loosing my mind LOL.
Laura Ann
At 07:58 AM 1/3/2009, you wrote:
>This may turn out to be a valuable chance for an experiment.
>Bookshare has the file you originally submitted. That will give us a
>point before the stripper got to it. Bookshare may be able to learn
>something with this example.
>
>E.
>
>
>At 08:45 AM 1/3/2009, you wrote:
>>hi,
>>It was the book Julie is working on that I had done in the past.
>>
>>I was just surprised top lines on every other page are missing.
>>I read the book through so am wondering if stripper got the page.
>>no offense taken.
>>
>>but saw someone say they wished careless proof readers would be on the
>>list.
>>sometimes its a matter of them either being new and learning or
>>other circustances.
>>
>>I noticed this was submitted 3 years ago when I looked.
>>I just really want to do a good job and produce quality scans so
>>was trying to figure out what went wrong.
>>
>>Thanks for writing back.
>>Have a good weekend.
>>Laura Ann
>>At 12:45 PM 1/2/2009, you wrote:
>>>Laura Ann,
>>>
>>>I wasn't really pointing fingers, and I'm sorry if it came across that
>>>way.
>>>There are lots of reasons why a file or a particular book might turn >>>out
>>>the
>>>way it has when it finally gets into the collection.  I was just more
>>>wondering how to handle it, and being frustrated that I couldn't just >>>fix
>>>it
>>>as I went and then get the better product back into the collection.
>>>
>>>Now, I know what to do, and I'm glad I brought it up here, because >>>while
>>>I
>>>knew about the book quality issues button on the book's download page, >>>I
>>>did
>>>not know I could ask Carrie to stick the book back on step one for me >>>to
>>>validate/proofread and improve.
>>>
>>>Cait
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Laura Ann
>>>Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 10:01 AM
>>>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Possible book quality issue
>>>
>>>
>>>sometimes it might be that they are new and just learning. sometimes >>>it
>>>may
>>>be that something else happens.
>>>
>>>or in the case of this book I scanned it and read it through and the
>>>book was entirely there so not sure why a line would be missing. I >>>take a >>>lot of time with my scans and strive for excellence. I hope my scans >>>are
>>>improving and have improved but I have always
>>>wanted quality work.
>>>
>>>I also read through entirely now as a proof reader and know my
>>>validating have improved from my first one but am human and am sure I
>>>miss things.
>>>
>>>My point here is that its not just careless validating or scanning or
>>>that someone doesn't care.
>>>it may be they are learning and new to validating or scanning, >>>learning
>>>or
>>>that something else might have ruined the scan and validation
>>>after its uploaded.
>>>I don't know.
>>>Laura Ann
>>>
>>>At 02:49 AM 1/2/2009, you wrote:
>>> >That reminds me of another book that I just scanned and am proofing.
>>> >So Cindy, here's one more title for the books being scanned list.
>>> >Its called Gianna Aborted... and lived to tell about it by Jessica
>>> >Shaver. Although this book had an excellent rating, the first line
>>> >of every other page was missing!
>>> >I guess I'd better get on that book quality button too.
>>> >Julia
>>> >----- Original Message ----- From: "Mayrie ReNae"
>>> ><mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> >To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 5:28 PM
>>> >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Possible book quality issue
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >>Hi Cait!
>>> >>
>>> >>Yes, do use the report book quality button on the book information
>>> >>page.  That's supposed to be the thing to do.
>>> >>
>>> >>Oh, I know how frustrating that is to read a book that is supposed >>> >>to >>> >>be excellently rated but isn't. Hopefully, oh so hopefully, the >>> >>new
>>> >>volunteer manual will change the requirements for proofreading to
>>> >>require a spell check at the very least, which it doesn't now.
>>> >>
>>> >>I sympathize with you completely! I've wanted to read books, taken >>> >>a
>>> >>look at them, then changed my mind and moved onto something else.
>>> >>
>>> >>I wish all of the unmotivated proofreaders were on this list so >>> >>they'd
>>> >>know how they torture us by being less than thorough!
>>> >>
>>> >>Mayrie
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>-----Original Message-----
>>> >>From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >>[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of My >>> >>Nickels
>>> >>Worth
>>> >>Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 2:07 PM
>>> >>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Possible book quality issue
>>> >>
>>> >>Hi,
>>> >>
>>> >>Ok, I'm wondering how to handle this..
>>> >>
>>> >>I am currently reading The Wild Rose of Kilgannon by Kathleen >>> >>Givens
>>> >>for fun.  It's in the collection.  It's rated as an excellent scan,
>>> >>but geez, that's far far from the truth!!  There are a *ton* of
>>> >>scanner errors in this book!  It's so distracting it's difficult
>>> >>reading, whether I try in braille or using speech.  Trouble is, now
>>> >>I'm wanting to see how it ends!
>>> >>
>>> >>Anyway, Do I use the report book quality button on the download >>> >>page >>> >>for this book and report the problems that way? It's * so* >>> >>tempting
>>> >>to fix everything as I go, but honestly, if I rescanned everybook I
>>> >>read it'd be in trouble, not to mention far behind in my course
>>> >>work!(grins)
>>> >>
>>> >>I really, really hope that the new volunteer manual address book
>>> >>quality stuff like  this as far as submitters and validaters alike
>>> >>goes! Honestly, if the validater had only spell checked the book >>> >>and
>>> >>done the bare minimum the current manual calls for, then that'd
>>> >>explain all these errors.  A case in point why we should read every
>>> >>book from cover to cover.  Preaching to the choir, I know!
>>> >>
>>> >>Cait
>>> >>
>>> >>
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