[bksvol-discuss] Re: Pictures on unnumbered pages

Glad it made sense.  I am not functioning at 100%, but relate to situations 
like this.

Thanks for taking so much care handling this book.  I always love hearing 
stories of people trying hard to preserve integrity within our given 
limitations.  It is a challenge, but usually we can find an acceptable solution.

Have a great day!
Valerie


On Jan 23, 2010, at 11:27 AM, Melissa Smith wrote:

> Valerie,
> This makes the most sense for this situation. It will not mess up page 
> numbering, but will keep the picture caption and description with the 
> associated text.
> Thanks,
> 
> Melissa
> 
> 
> 
> Valerie Maples wrote:
>> If the pictures are captioned and linked to adjacent text, I would bracket 
>> the information on the page it associates with something like:
>> 
>> [picture description/caption from unnumbered page: blah blah blah]
>> 
>> if a description is not necessary or available, above with only caption 
>> notation.
>> if there is no description or caption available, I would bracket like this:
>> 
>> [picture removed, description unavailable]
>> 
>> Others will weigh in, I am sure.
>> 
>> Valerie
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 22, 2010, at 6:43 PM, Melissa Smith wrote:
>> 
>>  
>>> Carrie, Valerie is correct. There is page 6 with text, an unnumbered page 
>>> with picture, unnumbered blank page, page 7 with text. I most definitely 
>>> know not to remove pages that are numbered or do not have numbers, but are 
>>> counted in the page count. In other words, if it went page 6 with text, 
>>> picture page, blank page, page 99 with text. I've seen many a book with the 
>>> picture inserts, which are, usually, several pages of pictures in the 
>>> middle of a book, but this was a little different, because they are just 
>>> single pages that are scattered throughout the text. They go with the text, 
>>> and so I was just trying to decide the best way to handle them. My thought 
>>> was to keep the page with the picture caption, and perhaps have a sighted 
>>> person describe them, and eliminate the blank pages. I just wasn't sure 
>>> that was going to be the best way to handle it.
>>> 
>>> Melissa
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Carrie Karnos wrote:
>>>    
>>>> That's fine. No problem if someone removes pages from the middle of a book 
>>>> as long as the page numbering is preserved. My problem is when someone 
>>>> deletes blank pages 8 and 9, so page 7 is immediately followed by page 10. 
>>>>  When I look at the book in the approval queue, the page numbering is 
>>>> messed up, so I return it for more editing. If you include pages 8 and 9, 
>>>> and put [blank page] on them, then I'm a happy camper. I'll approve the 
>>>> book.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for asking me to clarify! Carrie
>>>> 
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> *From:* Valerie Maples <vlmaples@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> *To:* bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> *Sent:* Fri, January 22, 2010 3:57:26 PM
>>>> *Subject:* [bksvol-discuss] Re: Pictures on unnumbered pages
>>>> 
>>>> Carrie;
>>>> 
>>>> My impression was that these pages (the picture page and blank page) would 
>>>> NOT alter current numbering.  In other words, it was like this:
>>>> p 6 text
>>>> picture page
>>>> blank page
>>>> p 7 text
>>>> 
>>>> Kind of like picture inserts.
>>>> 
>>>> Valerie
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Jan 22, 2010, at 5:44 PM, Carrie Karnos wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>      
>>>>> No please, don't omit unnumbered pages! It throws the page numbering off. 
>>>>> Please keep the blank pages, put a page number on them, and either [blank 
>>>>> page] or a description of the image. Here's a section from the Volunteer 
>>>>> manual:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>     Do Not Remove Blank Pages If Page Numbering Will Be Affected
>>>>> 
>>>>> Blank pages are often found in the following places in books:
>>>>> 
>>>>>   * After the Table of Contents
>>>>>   * After the Dedication
>>>>>   * After the Acknowledgments
>>>>>   * After pages which identify a section of the book as Part I,
>>>>>     Part II, etc.
>>>>>   * Between chapters
>>>>>   * Before the Glossary
>>>>>   * Before the Index
>>>>>   * Before the appendices
>>>>> 
>>>>> Blank pages should only be removed if doing so does not affect a book's 
>>>>> page numbering. For example, it is sometimes obvious that a blank page is 
>>>>> page 85 because the page before it is numbered 84 and the page after it 
>>>>> is numbered 86. In this instance, the blank page should not be removed, 
>>>>> and it may be helpful to add the page number to the page to help prevent 
>>>>> it from accidentally being lost when converting the file to a different 
>>>>> format, accidentally being removed by a volunteer during proofreading, 
>>>>> mis-numbered by the tool which processes page numbers for DAISY books, or 
>>>>> by the tool responsible for identifying original page numbers in BRF 
>>>>> books.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Note that books often begin numbering pages with the first page of the 
>>>>> main content, but page numbering can also begin with the first page of a 
>>>>> book. When numbering begins with the first page of the book, then blank 
>>>>> pages should be included in the front of the book to preserve page 
>>>>> numbering.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Some books will have photos, advertisements, or other material in the 
>>>>> middle of the book. Remove these pages only if they do not disrupt the 
>>>>> page numbers. Many times the pages on each side of the material will be 
>>>>> sequential (for example, page 112, six pages, page 113). In this case, 
>>>>> please remove the pages from the scan to preserve page numbering.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks! Carrie
>>>>> 
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> *From:* Kathy Hester <kathyruth@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:kathyruth@xxxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>> *To:* bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> *Sent:* Fri, January 22, 2010 1:19:48 PM
>>>>> *Subject:* [bksvol-discuss] Re: Pictures on unnumbered pages
>>>>> 
>>>>> Since the pages wouldn't affect the consecutive numbering, couldn't they 
>>>>> just be omitted?  If you prefer to put them in, you could just put them 
>>>>> in at the end of the book with a small note saying that they were on 
>>>>> unnumbered pages, and gather all the captions together on one page, not 
>>>>> mentioning the blank pages, so that the book wouldn't have so many pages 
>>>>> added to what its numbering suggests.  I would think that would be 
>>>>> permissible since the pages are not numbered.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Good luck with it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kathy
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>        
>>>>>> "The LORD bless you and keep you;
>>>>>> the LORD make His face shine upon you
>>>>>> and be gracious to you;
>>>>>> the LORD turn His face toward you
>>>>>> and give you peace."
>>>>>> Numbers 6:24-26
>>>>>>          
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melissa Smith" <mdsmith25@xxxxxxxx 
>>>>> <mailto:mdsmith25@xxxxxxxx>>
>>>>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 12:43 PM
>>>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Pictures on unnumbered pages
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm currently working on a book from the 1930's. There are pictures
>>>>> scattered through out the book, but the pages that they appear on are
>>>>> not numbered. Also, the facing page is blank and unnumbered. For
>>>>> example, page 6 with text, unnumbered page with picture, unnumbered
>>>>> blank page, page 7 with text. I have 2 questions. First, would you
>>>>> eliminate the blank pages or label them as blank? Can the unnumbered
>>>>> picture pages be left where they are, or should they be moved to the end
>>>>> of the book? I will be doing some other books from this period, and it
>>>>> appears that this is often how pictures were handled at that time.
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Melissa
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