Hey Debbie, As has already been pointed out, simply dropping the stripper might not be the best logistically sound idea with the current BookShare system. I think that Jim's posts recently help to show us that indeed, BookShare is aware of our concerns. I would dislike a committee setting as I don't wish to see either select views being presented to the BookShare team, or some form of politics enter the arena. I think what partially gives BookShare its power is that we all can connect seemlessly across the country and have an equal chance to let our opinions be heard. As I said in a previous post, I think some of the frustration that volunteers face is lack of word from Palo Alto. If we could get better apraised of what's happening in the offices, say twice a month, then I think more of us would understand the hard work I'm confident the BookShare team do. I've refrained from jumping in on the header discussions too much as of late. The positive idea that I have always supported is a method in which the user can choose to perform or not to perform the automated tool. A web site choice might be the best we can do. I'd rather see the tool implemented into the unpack utility or a separate utility for download so that dialup users do not need to be connected to get the other version if they determine they want it. (Thank goodness I have had highspeed since 2000, but I do still know lots of people stuck with the 56k). *grin* Best, Jake www.JBrownell.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deborah Kent Stein" <dkent5817@xxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 6:25 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Page numbers and headers/footers > > > Hi, Mike, > > Actually, I'm not a big fan of committees, and the thought of creating one > raises its own set of concerns, as you wisely point out. I'm working from > the premise that the Bookshare staff is enormously busy and can't be > expected to monitor the volunteer list very closely, with its stream of > chattter about everything from the logistics of scanning software to the > inadequacies of our public libraries. Wouldn't it be more effective if we > could present the staff with a few serious concerns and suggestions > periodically, in a forum where we know we will have their full attention and > can get clear answers? > > As to the stripper, we've made it clear that most of us dislike it intensely > and feel it does far more harm than good. Until a better program is > developed, why can't Bookshare stop using the current one? I STILL feel > that they're not listening, and it's profoundly frustrating. > > Debbie > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Pietruk" <pietruk@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 5:29 AM > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Page numbers and headers/footers > > > > Debbie > > > > In addition to Peter, particularly when a volunteer co-ordinator is in > > place, this list gives Benetech plenty of input from the users and > > volunteers of the service. > > While I realize you are a fan of formal comittees, I, as a user, much > > prefer the current form of input as it is both direct and doesn't add > > another layer of bureaucracy. > > If Benetech itself were bureaucratic with hundreds of execs and the like, > > it might make sense. > > And, if there is a committee, why is that committee going to represent a > > good cross section of views as committees tend either to reflect the views > > of the reps themselves or their parent organizations rather than the > > everyday users and volunteers. > > Benetech and BookShare's major problem these days is a lack of staff to > > implement its activities which is a result of the real world difficulty of > > procuring sizable donations and grants. > > > > As can be seen by this discussion of the stripper, there truly isn't much > > of a consensus as to what users prefer; so a committee, if it truly > > represented users, would have the same result. > > > > About all we know is that folks don't particularly like the stripper (they > > seem to agree about that); and as there is no consensus, perhaps the > > optimum solution, if technologically possible, is to allow users the > > ability to control stripping. > > And one doesn't need a committee to figure that out nor there infrequent > > meetings to formalize things which might slow down things even more. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.5/58 - Release Date: 7/25/2005 > >