[bksvol-discuss] Re: Page numbering

Hi Debbie.
Determining the number of pages in a book can be tricky.

I use Kurzweil 1000 for proof reading and kurzy allows you to assign an operator defined page to the first actual page. This helps immensely if there are page numbers. You can go to the back of the book and see if the page number there matches what Kurzy thinks is the final page. If so, you're in luck. Iff not, then you find the first place where a mismatch occurs, and determine whether or not it is a missing page, two pages scanned as one, or just a missing page number.

Another way to approach it is, if there is a table of contents giving chapter headings and page numbers, you just get them to match.

These are merely suggestions to help you on your way to great proofing.

Bob

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Mayrie ReNae" <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 11:14 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Page numbering


HI Debby,

This isn't the case by any means with all books, but it has been my
experience that, many times, when two pages appear to be blank at the
beginning of a book, one, in fact contains the title of the book in a funky
font that OCR couldn't figure out what to do with, and the other is empty.
So, when I think this might be the case, (just by gut instinct, or by asking
a sighted person with access to a hard copy of the book) I will put the
title of the book on the first of the blank pages and the statement like
this: [This page Contains No Text.] on the second blank page. And I number
with lower case Roman numerals all preliminary pages.

Just what I do.  In case it comforts, or enlightens in some way.

Happy proofreading!

Mayrie



-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Debby Franson
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 8:19 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Page numbering

Hi Cindy!

I am blind.

No, I don't have a copy of the book and was unfamiliar with it until I
downloaded it.  On the book description, it said it was Submitted By:
Sharon Hughey, so, maybe if you are on the list, Sharon, you could let me
know if there are to pages missing along in the book.  I have put notes to
myself where I think they are, which, of course I will remove before I check
in the book.

Debby

At 02:06 AM 10/26/2009, Cindy wrote
Debby, are you sighted or blind? Do you have the print book to work
from and perhaps a sighted friend or partner who can look at the book
and tell you about the preliminary pages and where the numbering
starts? If not, there are many of us who fortunately are sighted and if
we can get the same edition of the book that uou're proofing will be happy
to hslpe you out.
Cindy

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--- On Sun, 10/25/09, Debby Franson <the.bee@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> From: Debby Franson <the.bee@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Page numbering
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Sunday, October 25, 2009, 9:50 PM Hi Lori, Cindy and everyone!
>
> I just started proofreading a book for the first time today as I
> just signed up for volunteering yesterday.
>
> It seems like a bit of guess work in determining where a page is
> exactly before the page numbering in the book starts.  Do I just
> make my best guess?  Also, when I loaded the book into word, I
> discovered there were a few more pages than what is the number of
> pages in the book information page.  If the number doesn't come out
> to be exactly the same as what is given in the book information page
> in the end, will the book be rejected?
>
> I'm proofreading "Love on Its Knees" by Dick Eastman, and thoroughly
> enjoying reading as I proofread.
>
> Debby
>
> At 05:53 AM 10/25/2009, Lori wrote
> >That's it exactly. I get so caught up reading I lose
> track of numbering
> >and then have to go back and look at the last number,
> etc.
> >
> >Lori
> >
> >----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> >To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 10:33 PM
> >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Page numbering
> >
> >
> >>I don't know of any way. Someone once said Word had
> a way to put the page
> >>numbers in automatically. Either I tried it once
> and it didn't work or I
> >>didn't try it.
> >>
> >>I do what you do. The only problem with that is
> that at times I got so
> >>involved with the story that I either numbered the
> same page twice or
> >>misnumbered, or forgot to put in a number. I found
> out because after I
> >>finish proofing a book by reading I do a final
> spell-check and then a
> >>final page numbering check, by hitting the page up
> and down arrows.
> >>Cindy
> >>
> >>Wish List (i.e., books wanted added to the
> collection) and
> >>books-being-scanned list available at sites below
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Wish List:
> >>https://wiki.benetech.org/display/BSO/Bookshare+Wish+List
> >>
> >>Books Being Scanned List:
> >>https://wiki.benetech.org/display/BSO/Books+Being+Scanned+List
> >>
> >>
> >>--- On Sat, 10/24/09, Lori <lori@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>>From: Lori <lori@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Page numbering
> >>>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>Date: Saturday, October 24, 2009, 2:43 PM Hi all,
> >>>
> >>>At this point I have been adding in page
> numbers by hand
> >>>making sure to have a blink line above and
> below. I'm
> >>>currently working on Douglas Winter's "Clive
> Barker: Dark
> >>>and Fantastic" which is over 600 pages. I'm
> reading through
> >>>it so can add missing numbers by hand, but
> wanted to ask if
> >>>there is another method that I am not aware of
> besides
> >>>manually adding them.
> >>>
> >>>Thanks for help in advance.
> >>>
> >>>Lori
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