[bksvol-discuss] Re: Page Stripping Update
- From: "siss52" <siss52@xxxxxxx>
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- Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:47:41 -0500
When does the stripper attack books??? When the validator uploads them and
the automated tool evaluates them, or later?
Sue
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From: Guido Corona
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No. Please continue submitting. An original unstripped copy of the book is
maintained for archival purposes. So there is no harm submitting books with
normalized headers. While the book will be published with its headers
temporarely stripped, the archival copy may be used in the future to
generate a 'kinder gentler' published copy. This operation would be done in
batch and will not require human sweat, but only a modicum of electricity.
G.
Guido Dante Corona
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Research Division,
Phone: 512. 838. 9735.
Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
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Would it make sense to hold off on submissions until this gets resolved? As
it stands, page numbers will be stripped, and then the books will have to be
repaired. Sounds like a lot of extra work for the Bookshare staff.
Debbie
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From: Guido Corona
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NO. PLESE LETS NOT BE INVENTIVE.
If you put two page numbers on the same page eventually both of them will be
back on the book, regardless what you do.
All Bookshare books will eventually be reworked to conform to standards. At
that time a brand new treatment will be made for all page headers. Stripped
headers are not gone forever. They are still in the archival copy. Just be
patient.
Guido
Guido Dante Corona
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How about doing it both ways? I could put a page number on the same line
with the text, AND put one with a blank line at either side, in the hope
that at least one would survive.
Debbie
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NO, its the other way around. If you insist keeping the page number,
there should be no blank line between the page number and the main text of
the book.
But considering Bookshare will reimplement its header/page-number stripping
strategy, I do invite you to continue placing page numbers on isolated
lines followed by a blank line if at the top, or preceeded by a blank line
if at the bottom. When the new methodology is in place end users will
likely be able to decide by themselves whether to keep strip page numbers.
G.
G.
Guido Dante Corona
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"Deborah Kent Stein" <dkent5817@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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I've read several times on this list that page numbers will be protected
from stripping if buffered by a linefeed on each side. Is this true?
Debbie
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Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 8:27 PM
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Good point Kelly. We need a 'partial stripper'. Actually in most states
total stripping is illegal, so G-character-string rules should be
enforceable as well on K1K.
Jokes aside, I will make that suggestion to the K1K development team. To
optionally leave page numbers intact, that is.
Guido
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"Kellie Hartmann" <hart0421@xxxxxxx>
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E,
You can strip headers with k9, but the numbers will be stripped too.
Unfortunately there is no way yet to strip headers without stripping
numbers.
Kellie
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