[bksvol-discuss] Re: Page Stripping Update

  • From: Guido Corona <guidoc@xxxxxxxxxx>
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  • Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:57:24 -0500

No.  Please continue submitting.  An original unstripped copy of the book 
is maintained for archival purposes.  So there is no harm submitting books 
with normalized headers.  While the book will be published with its 
headers temporarely stripped,  the archival copy may be used in the future 
to generate a 'kinder gentler' published copy.  This operation would be 
done in batch and will not require human sweat,  but only a modicum of 
electricity.

G.


Guido Dante Corona
IBM Accessibility Center,  Austin Tx.
Research Division,
Phone:  512. 838. 9735.
Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
Web:  http://www.ibm.com/able




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Would it make sense to hold off on submissions until this gets resolved? 
As it stands, page numbers will be stripped, and then the books will have 
to be repaired.  Sounds like a lot of extra work for the Bookshare staff. 
 
Debbie
 
 
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NO.  PLESE LETS NOT BE INVENTIVE. 
If you put two page numbers on the same page eventually both of them will 
be back on the book,  regardless what you do. 
All Bookshare books will eventually be reworked to conform to standards. 
At that time a brand new treatment will be made for all page headers. 
Stripped headers are not gone forever.  They are still in the archival 
copy.  Just be patient. 

Guido 


Guido Dante Corona
IBM Accessibility Center,  Austin Tx.
Research Division,
Phone:  512. 838. 9735.
Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
Web:  http://www.ibm.com/able



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How about doing it both ways?  I could put a page number on the same line 
with the text, AND put one with a blank line at either side, in the hope 
that at least one would survive.   
  
Debbie 
 
 
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NO,  its the other way around.  If you insist keeping the page number, 
there should be no blank line between the page number and the main text of 
the book. 
But considering Bookshare will reimplement its header/page-number 
stripping strategy,  I do invite you to continue placing page numbers on 
isolated lines followed by a blank line if at the top,  or preceeded by a 
blank line if at the bottom.  When the new methodology is in place end 
users will likely be able to decide by themselves whether to keep strip 
page numbers.   

G. 

G. 


Guido Dante Corona
IBM Accessibility Center,  Austin Tx.
Research Division,
Phone:  512. 838. 9735.
Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
Web:  http://www.ibm.com/able


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I've read several times on this list that page numbers will be protected 
from stripping if buffered by a linefeed on each side.  Is this true? 
 
Debbie 
 
 
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Good point Kelly.  We need a 'partial stripper'.  Actually in most states 
total stripping is illegal,  so G-character-string rules should be 
enforceable as well on K1K. 

Jokes aside,  I will make that suggestion to the K1K development team. To 
optionally leave page numbers intact, that is. 


Guido 


Guido Dante Corona
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Research Division,
Phone:  512. 838. 9735.
Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
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E,
You can strip headers with k9, but the numbers will be stripped too.
Unfortunately there is no way yet to strip headers without stripping
numbers.
Kellie



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