Hi Jim, 1. Yes. The majority of people on the list, and I happen to agree with this, decided that it's easier to confirm the page we're on if the page numbers are at the top; if I search for a page number, or navigate by pages in a DAISY file, it's nicer to know I'm at the top of the page and just start reading from the place where the number was found, rather than having to navigate back up to the previous page and then read down as I would have to do if the page numbers were at the bottom. Plus, having page numbers at the tops of pages ensures that chapter headings, story titles, and such will be protected when the stripper is run on the uploaded RTF file to produce the final BRF and DAISY versions. 2. Yes. To make sure we're on the same page, the format is, starting from the top of a page: Page Break (the page begins) Blank Line Page Number Blank Line Chapter title or similar title, if applicable Blank Line Text of the Page Blank Line (following the last line of text) Page Break (bottom of the page) If there were no chapter title, the only variation would be: ... Page Number Blank Line Text of the Page ... 3. First, because several Bookshare readers with vision have recently expressed their difficulty in reading books containing the varied fonts sometimes produced by OCR, several volunteers, myself included, have chosen to standardize the font throughout the text. I select it all, then do so to Times New Roman 12. Because the Bookshare conversion software will strip all but one of them anyway, and to help with pagination, I also remove any excess blank lines from pages, leaving only one in each place listed in #2. In Word, setting view to Normal rather than the default of Print and/or paper size to Legal in File > Page Setup > [Paper] tab, or even setting it to a wider/higher size than the default legal of 8.5" and 14", will also help eliminate extraneous soft page breaks. Upon adjusting paper size, if you get a dialog box alerting you that the margins have become too wide for printing, you can just activate the Ignore button. The Bookshare conversion software uses only the hard page breaks when creating page number navigation in the DAISY files or inserting the Braille page breaks with appropriate numbering in the BRF files, but having the soft page breaks eliminated and having Word reflect the true count of pages does make life easier. HTH, Maria Skype: MariaKristic AIM: MCKristic Email/MSN: maria6289@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Google Talk: Maria.Kristic@xxxxxxxxx Yahoo Messenger: mariakristic@xxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 3:01 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Page Number Discussion Hi, Simple questions. I'm going to look at the table of contents of the Drupal book and adjust the page breaks according to the page numbers the contents say the material is supposed to land on. I have found that I can use the Window menu in Word to split a document so that I can view two parts of it at the same time. This will make the job easier. Please correct my understanding or confirm it. I can't seem to figure out from the archives what the consensus was with page numbers from a little while back. 1. Do I put page numbers at the tops of pages? 2. Do I put <blank line> <page break> <blank line>? 3. If huge title fonts are making it hard to get pages to break correctly, what's the best thing to do about it? Thanks. Jim James D Homme, Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc., james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810 "it is only possible to live happily ever after on a day-to-day basis." -- Margaret Bonnano Highmark internal only: For usability and accessibility: http://highwire.highmark.com/sites/iwov/hwt093/ To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.