[bksvol-discuss] Re: Page Navigation Question (was Kurzweil scan to RTF file?)

Thanks, Pratik.

Speaking of headers: If I put a page number on those pages beginning a new 
chapter, which are currently unnumbered in the book I'm finishing up, do I 
still need to protect the chapter title?  I have stripped all the other headers 
already, but I obviously don't want to lose the chapter titles.  I noticed in a 
previous book I submitted that sometimes they were lost.  Is this because I 
forgot to put a number at the top of the page?

Thanks.

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  From: Pratik Patel 
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  Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 3:53 AM
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RTF file?)


  Evan,

  You're absolutely correct.  If the page numbers and breaks are correctly 
placed, DAISY will take you to the correct page.  One of the reasons why there 
is a big emphasis placed on the correct manner of dealing with  headers and 
their placement is because Bookshare uses the page number information supplied 
by the book to mark up the DAISY pages.

  Pratik





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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Evan Reese
  Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 3:17 AM
  To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Page Navigation Question (was Kurzweil scan to 
RTF file?)


  That reminds me of a tangential question: Does Daisy count page breaks or 
keep track of pages via Arabic page numbers.  For example, if the index in a 
book says something is on page 100, and I want to go to that page, will Daisy 
get me to the correct page, or will it take me to the page following the 99th 
page break, assuming the page breaks and page numbers are all correctly placed, 
of course?  I would imagine that the answer is probably that it will get me to 
page Arabic 100, but I don't trust software very much, having written some 
small programs myself, and I wouldn't be at all surprised to hear that the 
answer is that it won't take me to the correct page but rather to the page 
after the correct number of page breaks.

  Just wondering.
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Pratik Patel 
    To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 8:16 PM
    Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Kurzweil scan to RTF file?


    Aimy,

    any time you use kurzweil to scan, I would recommend that you save your 
file in its native format, which is .kes.  When you ultimately  upload to 
Bookshare, you can always convert your files to .rtf.  The .kes format have 
some excellent advantages.  One of those advantages is to allow you to define 
your own page numbers.  This means that you can tell Kurzweil 1000 where the 
actual start of the book is.  This features is known as "operator defined page 
numbers."  You can find it in the Navigation menu (alt+v).  Let's say for 
example, that Genji book you're  currently working on starts 30 pages into the 
actual scan.  You should go to the actual  page where the book numbering 
begins.  Page 1, for instance.  Go to the Navigation menu (alt+v) and arrow 
down to get to "operator defined page numbers."  Hit enter on this menu item.  
Kurzweil will ask you to put in a number.  type 1 here and press enter.  From 
now on, Kurzweil will announce the pages in the correct sequence.  Any pages 
before this point are announced as preliminary numbers.  So it could be, 
preliminary 1, preliminary 2, preliminary 3 and so on until you get to 
preliminary 30.  Then you go to page one, the number where you actually begin 
the book or page numbering.  

    And Aimy, Thanks for keeping the blank pages.  We recommend that all blank 
pages be kept in order to allow Bookshare tools to take advantage of page 
numbering capabilities.

    Regards,

    Pratik


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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Amy Goldring Tajalli
    Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 2:35 PM
    To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Kurzweil scan to RTF file?


    Hi Pratik, 

    I kept the blank pages so that the pagination would be as close to the 
original as possible.  Since the pre-text pages are in roman numerals which 
Kurzweil apparently cannot read, the final scan is reminiscent of the 
difference between third age and shire reckoning except that instead of 
subjractin 1600 you add 30  to the text pagination.  The blanks keep me honest. 
 I just have to remember to reset the settings every time I go to Genji. 

    Amy

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Pratik Patel 
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      Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 7:33 PM
      Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Kurzweil scan to RTF file?


      That reminds me that I have a whole stack of Genji books sitting 
somewhere in a box, packed away for the day when I'll get to buy a large house. 
 I'm sure they'll eventually make it into the collection. 
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kellie Hartmann
      Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 6:34 PM
      To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
      Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Kurzweil scan to RTF file?


      Hi Amy,
      Regarding your Genji project,
      1. The pages with just a couple of letters may be blank pages, or they 
may be pages that contain things that scanning software cannot interpret. That 
might include maps, charts, pictures, Japanese characters, or any number of 
other visual features. Unfortunately at this point there really isn't a way to 
incorporate the sketches into the Bookshare files--right now the system is 
handling text only. 
      I hope this is helpful and not too disappointing, and if you need more 
Kurzweil tips don't hesitate to ask,
      Kellie

      P.S. It's neat that you are adding this cultural classic to Bookshare's 
collection. One of the neatest things about Bookshare is the way it opens up 
opportunities to explore literature from other cultures that might not 
otherwise come to our notice.
      Kellie

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