[bksvol-discuss] Re: Out Sourcers
- From: Carrie Karnos <ckarnos@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 11:33:14 -0700 (PDT)
Hi Bob,
Annoying, isn't it? I've tried putting an asterisk in the title field too. I
wonder why the site lets me see all the worldwide books, and not you. I logged
out, so I'm not an admin or even a member, and it still worked okay. Are you
sure you're setting the Books to Search option to Books Available Worldwide or
Freely Available Books? If that isn't set, then I get the complaint about
setting the title, author or ISBN.
Carrie
________________________________
From: Bob <rwiley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 7:03:58 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Out Sourcers
When I tried this the site kept asking for title,
author or isbn. It wouldn't let me bring up anything otherwise. I even tried an
asterisk in the title field, but the program wasn't fooled.
Bob
“We know the future will outlast all of us, but I believe that all of us
will live on in the future we make,”
Senator Edward M. Kennedy
----- Original Message -----
>From: Christina
>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 8:25
> AM
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Out
> Sourcers
>
>
>Hi, Carrie.
>Yes, it does.
>Thanks.
>Christina
>
>----- Original Message -----
>>From: Carrie Karnos
>>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 12:33
>> AM
>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Out
>> Sourcers
>>
>>
>>Hi Christina,
>>
>>Please go to the advanced search screen, find the
>> drop-down menu for Books to Search, and select Books Available Worldwide.
>> Then click on the Advanced Search button. I just tried it now and found
>> 8,210 books but I see books of all qualities and also adult content
>> books.
>> Your number will be smaller unless you're set up to see everything.
>>
>>
>>If you want to see the number of public domain books, start out the
>> same way - advanced search screen, drop-down menu for Books to Search,
>> but
>> select Freely Available Books instead, then click on the Advanced Search
>> button. I see 4,100 books that are public domain (aka freely
>> available).
>>
>>Hope this helps! Carrie
>>
>>
>>
>>
________________________________
From: Christina
>> <greensleeves1@xxxxxxxxx>
>>To: >> bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 4:02:11
>> PM
>>Subject: >> [bksvol-discuss] Re: Out Sourcers
>>
>>
>> >>
>>Hi, Carrie.
>>Thanks for the info.
>>
>>Is there a way to see what percentage of the
>> books or which publishers are available for worldwide access?
>>I have a friend in England who may want to join
>> so I'm curious.
>>Christina
>>
>>-----
>>> Original Message -----
>>>From: Carrie Karnos
>>>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Sent: >>> Friday, August 28, 2009 6:20 PM
>>>Subject: >>> [bksvol-discuss] Re: Out Sourcers
>>>
>>>
>>>Hi Christina,
>>>
>>>You're right with your explanation but there's
>>> another wrinkle that you might be unaware of. As you said, anyone
>>> anywhere
>>> can download public domain books, they're available to everyone in the
>>> world.
>>>
>>>We have another designation that's called world-wide access.
>>> If someone outside the US joins Bookshare (having a qualifying
>>> disability), that person can download books that have world-wide
>>> permissions, but they can't download books with US-only permissions.
>>> Several publishers have given us world-wide permissions for their
>>> books.
>>> Scholastic, for example, has told us that whenever we put a book
>>> published
>>> by Scholastic into the collection, we can mark it as having world-wide
>>> permissions. So blind children around the world can read books by
>>> Scholastic, providing that their parents or teachers signed them up of
>>> course.
>>>
>>>And we have some books that are restricted so that only
>>> Americans and Canadians can read them, but no one else. There's a
>>> variety
>>> of permissions available, because some publishers want to restrict
>>> their
>>> books to certain countries. Copyright law is complex enough within the
>>> US,
>>> but when you add on the copyright laws from the 100+ countries around
>>> the
>>> world, it's a nightmare. We have to remain within all US copyright
>>> laws or
>>> we'd be shut down by the government fast.
>>>
>>>And yes, you're right
>>> about volunteers. Sighted volunteers can work on books, but not
>>> download
>>> the non-public domain books in the collection.
>>>
>>>HTH,
>>>Carrie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
________________________________
From: Christina
>>> <greensleeves1@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>To: >>> bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 3:01:52
>>> PM
>>>Subject: >>> [bksvol-discuss] Re: Out Sourcers
>>>
>>> >>>
>>>Hi, Reggie.
>>>The way I understand it, members can't
>>> download books if they're not US citizens because of copyright laws
>>> unless
>>> the book is in the public domain.
>>>
>>>I don't think this pertains to volunteers
>>> though since you can be a volunteer without being a member.
>>> Volunteers can work on books but they can't download them.
>>>Christina
>>>
>>>-----
>>>> Original Message -----
>>>>From: Reggie & Brooks
>>>>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>Sent: >>>> Friday, August 28, 2009 5:26 PM
>>>>Subject: >>>> [bksvol-discuss] Re: Out Sourcers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Now, that is interesting. Perhaps I
>>>> have missed it, very probably have since I am not a real fan of the
>>>> new
>>>> site (oooo did I say that? My bad). Anyway, BKS is, or at least
>>>> the last I knew, unable to be used by out-of-the-U.S. people
>>>> (except
>>>> public domain). However, outsources from Africa? Hmmmm! Sounds
>>>> just a little strange to me.
>>>>Reggie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
________________________________
From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
>>>> Bob
>>>>Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 2:02 PM
>>>>To: >>>> bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Out
>>>> Sourcers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Daproim Africa is one of the
>>>> outsourcers.
>>>>
>>>>Bob
>>>>“We know the future will outlast all of us, but I believe that all
>>>> of us will live on in the future we make,”
>>>>Senator Edward M. Kennedy
>>>>
>>>>-----
>>>>> Original Message -----
>>>>>From: Gary
>>>>> Petraccaro
>>>>>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>Sent: >>>>> Friday, August 28, 2009 12:58 PM
>>>>>Subject: >>>>> [bksvol-discuss] Out Sourcers
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I looked up a particular book and found
>>>>> that it was submitted and proofed by the same person, Daproim
>>>>> Africa. Has policy changed or is this one of the out
>>>>> sourcers?
>>>>>Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>
>>
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