[bksvol-discuss] Re: Old FR Discussion
- From: "Tiffany H. Jessen" <tjessen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 09 May 2006 08:52:28 -0400
Hi Bud,
I believe Donna was talking about a stand-alone version of Fine reader, where
as I thought you used it from within Kurzweil. If in fact you are not using
Kurzweil ignore this message, but if so, you can easily turn columns mode on
and off.
I believe the original setting for columns mode is on, and while that is good
to have on for textbooks, newspapers, and magazines, you don't need it on for
our typical non-fiction or fiction book. In fact, for things like table of
contents you specifically want it turned off.
For example, if columns mode were on when scanning a table of contents you
would probably hear chapter one, chapter two, chapter three, chapter four, and
so on, followed by 1, 17, 32, 50, and so on. It's not purposefully butchering
it, but yet is reading down the first column followed by the second, which is
of course what you do want it to do in magazines and other things formatted
that way. In our case we would now have no way to know which page number
correlated to which chapter number, so what you do is turn off columns mode
before scanning, and then instead of reading down the columns it will now read
across the row like chapter one, 1, chapter two, 17, chapter three, 32, chapter
four, 50.
To turn it off or back on again push the six on the numeric keypad. Kurzweil
will announce the status of the setting as you change it in either direction.
Finally, Did you know you could change the setting and rerecognize a page
without actually having to find the printed page and rescanning it?
I won't bother to write the steps unless you want me to, but this is yet
another great advantage of Kurzweil over OpenBook. Or, at least it was the last
time I did a good strong comparison. That admittedly was a while ago, so things
may have changed since then.
Tiff
----- Original Message -----
From: Bud Schwab
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 11:08 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Old FR Discussion
Hi Donna and gang,
I guess the reader you are referring to as f r is fine engine. I am having
trouble with a page every once in a while going to columns and reading down
calling each line as it goes. I think that's what you are referring to. I
hadn't pinpointed it to a particular reading engine. I wonder if they all do
it at times and why they do. I read mostly using one of the scansoft engines
and get good results mostly but have two particular problems. One is of course
this column thing. the other thing is that it puts a space in the middle of a
word occasionally, and also runs two words together without the required space.
Any ideas as to how to eliminate these? And I didn't quite follow what you
did with fine engine to eliminate the column stuff. Whatever it is maybe it
will work with the other reading engines also. Hope that's clear. I do most
of my scanning for Bookshare so I like to have it come out the best possible.
Thanks.
Bud Schwab
At 07:42 PM 5/8/2006, you wrote:
Hi all.
A few months ago when we were discussing FR8 and it's virtues and
challenges, someone was talking about a problem with it seeing pages as a text
box/column/table and looking for solutions to this problem. It was shortly
after his that I had computer problems and a lot of work to get done for my
job, so I just let all this slide for a while. Last weekend I revived FR7 and
started scanning again, and was surprised to find myself with the same problem
of pages appearing as text boxes/columns/tables. It was every other page.
Anyway, I know that I wasn't having this problem previously, so I started
investigating its source. Thanks to whoever saved my lengthy post about
settings for FR and posted it to the tips web site, I discovered that there was
one setting that was off. There is a drop-down box where you can choose format
layout to retain. Retain full page layout is the default and it is the one
that creates the problem. The selection directly under this is Retain font and
font size, and with this selected, you retain the general page layout without
the table problem.
I'd be interested to know if this fixes the problem for FR8 as I never
bought the upgrade.
Peace and Hope,
Donna
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