[bksvol-discuss] Re: Okay, I messed up...

  • From: "Mayrie ReNae" <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 21:04:01 -0700

Hi Valerie,

I don't know what would be best.  Perhaps Carrie can tell you what she
thinks.  You can write to her at volunteer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Good luck.  I really don't want to give you wrong instructions.  

So sorry.

And yes, Word can be persnickety and finicky, and a pain, can't it?  I
sympathize.

Mayrie 

-----Original Message-----
From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Valerie Maples
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 8:53 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Okay, I messed up...

Hi, Mayrie!

Mine gets funky past legal for some reason, and I don't have time to find
out why.  Have I said how much I hate Word 2007????  Anyway, since it is an
unnumbered page, should I just make maximum workable length and spill on to
additional pages?

Take care!

Valerie

Please pray for Doug's Dad & visit his website:

http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/billkoonce

 


> -----Original Message-----
> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss- 
> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mayrie ReNae
> Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 7:11 PM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Okay, I messed up...
> 
> Hi Valerie,
> 
>       Wherever you can, please eliminate all collumns!  For sighted 
> readers, they aren't a problem, but for speech and braille users they 
> can be represented terribly!
> 
>       Have you tried increasing your paper size to the maximum allowed by 
> Word under custom I think you can go as long as 22 inches?
> 
> Mayrie
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Valerie 
> Maples
> Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 4:32 PM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Okay, I messed up...
> 
> Actually, I think it occurs pretty frequently Word 2007. The best of 
> my knowledge at least one of the other types of section breaks is 
> related to column structure and how FineReader interprets it. I did 
> not look for that in my Bobbsey Twin book, but that is something that 
> occurs in all of their books in the front, mostly listing their 
> titles. I struggle with how to format that, as to whether I should 
> just let it be a simple list and run across additional pages (there 
> are so many that even legal size does not fit into one page) or 
> whether just to eliminate the other titles, but I don't want to do 
> that. I am inclined since it is an unnumbered page to just make a list 
> that runs across additional pages instead of trying to preserve this 
> format which creates two peculiar style section breaks since you go 
> from one column to two columns to one column that particular page.
> 
> Leave it to me to find an obscure problem and then have it be in a 
> series where I will be doing dozens of books. ;-)
> 
> HTH!
> Valerie
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss- 
> > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike
> > Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:36 PM
> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Okay, I messed up...
> >
> > Yes, there is more than one kind of section break; though, I don't 
> > know whether ^b and ^% each select one of the types.
> >
> > By far the most common is both the end of a "section" and the end of
> a
> > page.. Each "section" in word can have a specific formatting "style"
> > applied to it.  The other kind os section break allows the style to 
> > change, but does not mark the end of a page.  There must be some 
> > type of document this is useful in, but I can't think of what.
> >
> > The only thing important about these two is that for a file with 
> > both types in it, if you use the usual find and replace technique to
> change
> > section breaks to page breaks, it will remove all section breaks, 
> > but not put in page breaks.  Absolutely the only reason I know about 
> > this is that one day the settings on the scanner that Carrie uses at 
> > bookshare got messed up and it started putting in both types of 
> > section breaks.
> >
> > Also, by chance, I found there is a work-around to this problem.  If 
> > you start at the end of the document and tell find and replace to 
> > search backwards, it converts all the section breaks to page breaks 
> > correctly.
> >
> > So, everyone can just forget about all this because the problem with 
> > the two kinds of section breaks will probably never occur again.
> >
> > Misha
> >
> > Mayrie ReNae wrote:
> > > Hi Jackie,
> > >
> > >   I wonder if there are more than one kind of section breaks?  I
> > know
> > > Valerie has seen more than one kind when scanning.
> > >
> > >   I do know that when I type ^b into the find box, and ^m into the 
> > > replace box, section breaks are changed to page breaks.  I'm using
> > Word
> > > 2003, so go figure.
> > >
> > > I just know what I do, and what it makes happen.
> > >
> > > I never understand why.
> > >
> > > Mayrie
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie
> > McBride
> > > Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 10:16 AM
> > > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Okay, I messed up...
> > >
> > > When I checked (because I thought it was ^b also but wasn't sure)
> my
> > MSWord
> > > said ^%. I, too, was taken aback by that. How I checked it was to
> do
> > a find
> > > & replace, then clicked the special menu, then chose section break.
> > What was
> > > in the box at that point was ^%. I'm not sayin who's right or 
> > > wrong
> > here--as
> > > I said, I, too, thought that section break was ^b. But my version
> of
> > word,
> > > which, again, is 2003, seems to indicate otherwise. Since this 
> > > also
> > has me
> > > puzzled, any input is greatly appreciated. I'd hate to lead some1
> > astray. In
> > > this case, though, since I did actually check b4 I wrote that, I
> > don't quite
> > > know what to say.
> > >
> > > On 9/20/09, siss52 <siss52@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi Valerie,
> > >>
> > >> Yes, ^b is section break.
> > >>
> > >> Sue S.
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Valerie Maples" <vlmaples@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 11:41 AM
> > >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Okay, I messed up...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> In transcribing to my cheat sheet, isn't section break ^b?
> > >>
> > >> Take care!
> > >>
> > >> Valerie
> > >>
> > >> Please pray for Doug's Dad & visit his website:
> > >>
> > >> http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/billkoonce
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> > >>> [mailto:bksvol-discuss- bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
> > >>> Jackie McBride
> > >>> Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 10:41 AM
> > >>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Okay, I messed up...
> > >>>
> > >>> Valerie:
> > >>>
> > >>> U asked about the following codes:
> > >>> Line break--no code. See explanation, below Blank line ^p 
> > >>> Paragraph break ^p Section break ^% Page break ^m Indent/tab ^t
> > >>>
> > >>> Line breaks are inserted when a line becomes too long to fit in 
> > >>> the set margins & this is a soft, not a hard code. It will be 
> > >>> changed
> > if
> > >>> the margins are changed. Blank lines & paragraphs are the same. 
> > >>> & usually actually consist of ^p^p
> > >>>
> > >>> Note these codes are word 2k3.
> > >>>
> > >>> On 9/19/09, Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> I thinkif you haven't alredy saved you can go back to the
> > document,
> > >>>>
> > >>> click on
> > >>>
> > >>>> iy, go to edit and click on undo Cindy
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Wish List (i.e., books wanted added to the collection) and 
> > >>>> books-being-scanned list available at sites below
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Wish List:
> > >>>> https://wiki.benetech.org/display/BSO/Bookshare+Wish+List
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Books Being Scanned List:
> > >>>> https://wiki.benetech.org/display/BSO/Books+Being+Scanned+List
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --- On Sat, 9/19/09, Valerie Maples <vlmaples@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> From: Valerie Maples <vlmaples@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >>>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Okay, I messed up...
> > >>>>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >>>>> Date: Saturday, September 19, 2009, 11:31 PM Thought I 
> > >>>>> understood a formatting tool, in the ribbon (don't get me 
> > >>>>> started on that!) for a different book I am working on and 
> > >>>>> need to keep a single reference of keystroke codes for find 
> > >>>>> and
> replace
> in one place.
> > I
> > >>>>> do have a "before" saved copy, but want to learn from my
> mistake.
> > >>>>> So that I have them all in one note, I am interested in:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Line break
> > >>>>> Blank line
> > >>>>> Paragraph break
> > >>>>> Section break
> > >>>>> Page break
> > >>>>> Indent/tab
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> In short, I thought I could highlight a selection in my work
> and
> > >>>>> hit the style I had modified and it would only change that
> text,
> > >>>>> but it changed the entire document and I had done many more 
> > >>>>> contextual repairs before knowing it had changed all my title 
> > >>>>> formatting and indents.
> > >>>>> Ugh!  This is most
> > >>>>> definitely a learning process...
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Thanks!
> > >>>>> Valerie
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
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