[bksvol-discuss] Re: Okay, I messed up...

  • From: "Mayrie ReNae" <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 17:11:22 -0700

Hi Valerie,

        Wherever you can, please eliminate all collumns!  For sighted
readers, they aren't a problem, but for speech and braille users they can be
represented terribly!  

        Have you tried increasing your paper size to the maximum allowed by
Word under custom I think you can go as long as 22 inches?

Mayrie

 

-----Original Message-----
From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Valerie Maples
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 4:32 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Okay, I messed up...

Actually, I think it occurs pretty frequently Word 2007. The best of my
knowledge at least one of the other types of section breaks is related to
column structure and how FineReader interprets it. I did not look for that
in my Bobbsey Twin book, but that is something that occurs in all of their
books in the front, mostly listing their titles. I struggle with how to
format that, as to whether I should just let it be a simple list and run
across additional pages (there are so many that even legal size does not fit
into one page) or whether just to eliminate the other titles, but I don't
want to do that. I am inclined since it is an unnumbered page to just make a
list that runs across additional pages instead of trying to preserve this
format which creates two peculiar style section breaks since you go from one
column to two columns to one column that particular page.

Leave it to me to find an obscure problem and then have it be in a series
where I will be doing dozens of books. ;-)

HTH!
Valerie

> -----Original Message-----
> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss- 
> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike
> Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:36 PM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Okay, I messed up...
> 
> Yes, there is more than one kind of section break; though, I don't 
> know whether ^b and ^% each select one of the types.
> 
> By far the most common is both the end of a "section" and the end of a 
> page.. Each "section" in word can have a specific formatting "style"
> applied to it.  The other kind os section break allows the style to 
> change, but does not mark the end of a page.  There must be some type 
> of document this is useful in, but I can't think of what.
> 
> The only thing important about these two is that for a file with both 
> types in it, if you use the usual find and replace technique to change 
> section breaks to page breaks, it will remove all section breaks, but 
> not put in page breaks.  Absolutely the only reason I know about this 
> is that one day the settings on the scanner that Carrie uses at 
> bookshare got messed up and it started putting in both types of 
> section breaks.
> 
> Also, by chance, I found there is a work-around to this problem.  If 
> you start at the end of the document and tell find and replace to 
> search backwards, it converts all the section breaks to page breaks 
> correctly.
> 
> So, everyone can just forget about all this because the problem with 
> the two kinds of section breaks will probably never occur again.
> 
> Misha
> 
> Mayrie ReNae wrote:
> > Hi Jackie,
> >
> >     I wonder if there are more than one kind of section breaks?  I
> know
> > Valerie has seen more than one kind when scanning.
> >
> >     I do know that when I type ^b into the find box, and ^m into the 
> > replace box, section breaks are changed to page breaks.  I'm using
> Word
> > 2003, so go figure.
> >
> > I just know what I do, and what it makes happen.
> >
> > I never understand why.
> >
> > Mayrie
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie
> McBride
> > Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 10:16 AM
> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Okay, I messed up...
> >
> > When I checked (because I thought it was ^b also but wasn't sure) my
> MSWord
> > said ^%. I, too, was taken aback by that. How I checked it was to do
> a find
> > & replace, then clicked the special menu, then chose section break.
> What was
> > in the box at that point was ^%. I'm not sayin who's right or wrong
> here--as
> > I said, I, too, thought that section break was ^b. But my version of
> word,
> > which, again, is 2003, seems to indicate otherwise. Since this also
> has me
> > puzzled, any input is greatly appreciated. I'd hate to lead some1
> astray. In
> > this case, though, since I did actually check b4 I wrote that, I
> don't quite
> > know what to say.
> >
> > On 9/20/09, siss52 <siss52@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Valerie,
> >>
> >> Yes, ^b is section break.
> >>
> >> Sue S.
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Valerie Maples" <vlmaples@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 11:41 AM
> >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Okay, I messed up...
> >>
> >>
> >> In transcribing to my cheat sheet, isn't section break ^b?
> >>
> >> Take care!
> >>
> >> Valerie
> >>
> >> Please pray for Doug's Dad & visit his website:
> >>
> >> http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/billkoonce
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss- 
> >>> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie McBride
> >>> Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 10:41 AM
> >>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Okay, I messed up...
> >>>
> >>> Valerie:
> >>>
> >>> U asked about the following codes:
> >>> Line break--no code. See explanation, below Blank line ^p 
> >>> Paragraph break ^p Section break ^% Page break ^m Indent/tab ^t
> >>>
> >>> Line breaks are inserted when a line becomes too long to fit in 
> >>> the set margins & this is a soft, not a hard code. It will be 
> >>> changed
> if
> >>> the margins are changed. Blank lines & paragraphs are the same. & 
> >>> usually actually consist of ^p^p
> >>>
> >>> Note these codes are word 2k3.
> >>>
> >>> On 9/19/09, Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I thinkif you haven't alredy saved you can go back to the
> document,
> >>>>
> >>> click on
> >>>
> >>>> iy, go to edit and click on undo
> >>>> Cindy
> >>>>
> >>>> Wish List (i.e., books wanted added to the collection) and 
> >>>> books-being-scanned list available at sites below
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Wish List:
> >>>> https://wiki.benetech.org/display/BSO/Bookshare+Wish+List
> >>>>
> >>>> Books Being Scanned List:
> >>>> https://wiki.benetech.org/display/BSO/Books+Being+Scanned+List
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --- On Sat, 9/19/09, Valerie Maples <vlmaples@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> From: Valerie Maples <vlmaples@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Okay, I messed up...
> >>>>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>> Date: Saturday, September 19, 2009, 11:31 PM Thought I 
> >>>>> understood a formatting tool, in the ribbon (don't get me 
> >>>>> started on that!) for a different book I am working on and need 
> >>>>> to keep a single reference of keystroke codes for find and replace
in one place.
> I
> >>>>> do have a "before" saved copy, but want to learn from my mistake.
> >>>>> So that I have them all in one note, I am interested in:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Line break
> >>>>> Blank line
> >>>>> Paragraph break
> >>>>> Section break
> >>>>> Page break
> >>>>> Indent/tab
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In short, I thought I could highlight a selection in my work and 
> >>>>> hit the style I had modified and it would only change that text, 
> >>>>> but it changed the entire document and I had done many more 
> >>>>> contextual repairs before knowing it had changed all my title 
> >>>>> formatting and indents.
> >>>>> Ugh!  This is most
> >>>>> definitely a learning process...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks!
> >>>>> Valerie
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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