[bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: self-defense

  • From: Grandma Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 12:06:53 -0800 (PST)

That sounds like an interesting story, too. Perhaps
another chapter for the book--Unseen Dangers, or
someting like.

Cindy

--- Lora <loravara@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> When I was sixteen, and traveling with my first dog
> in San Francisco and
> Berkeley, I used to carry a pair of brass knuckles
> with a knife attached.  I
> only had to open the blade once, but that was a very
> scary night.
> 
> That's when I took my one and only self-defense
> class.
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Robert Riddle
> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 6:09 AM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: self-defense
> 
> When I was living on the streets, I had  at least 6
> knives on my person. I
> had 1 on my belt, 1 in each boot, one in my jacket
> pocket, one up under my
> armpit and another strapped to my inner wrist in a
> spring clutch.. Now that
> I'm not carrying everything I own on my back, I went
> back down to 2 blades,
> on my belt and in my belt pack. I've only had to use
> a blade once, and I
> won't go into that here. I take protection very
> seriously and was trained in
> the martial arts and wrestling. I refuse to use
> force unless it's absolutely
> necessary, which, as I said, has only happened once.
> Word gets around on the
> streets and I guess the guy I met spread the word
> around that you don't f&&&
> with the blind guy over on this side of town.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lora" <loravara@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 4:01 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: self-defense
> 
> 
> > The walking with confidence I already do.  As to
> keys, I don't do this 
> > all the time, but certainly when I'm  coming home
> late, I do.
> >
> > I've also thought about carrying mace, but have
> never gotten around to it.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Grandma 
> > Cindy
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 12:42 AM
> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] OT: self-defense
> >
> > A long time ago, on one of the magazine programs
> like 60 minutes, they 
> > had
> a
> > section on how to avoid being attacked, and that
> was one of the things 
> > to they stressed, especially for elderly or
> women--to walk confidently 
> > and
> with
> > an air of self-assureance -- and hold your keys in
> your hand with one 
> > key between two fingers pointed outward, so you
> can jab someone in the 
> > eyes if necessary.
> >
> > Cindy
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The joke about well trained
> > > akaido folks is that the
> > > energy they give off and the confident way they
> move means they get 
> > > messed with less.
> > >
> > > E.
> > > At 12:44 AM 12/5/2006, you wrote:
> > > >I did take a women's self-defense class while
> > > living in San Francisco years
> > > >ago, but I don't remember a thing.  I've
> thought
> > > about pursuing aikido, and
> > > >had even found an instructor willing to teach
> me,
> > > but then I moved to
> > > >Denver.  I haven't pursued that particular
> interest
> > > since.
> > > >
> > > >I'd love to know if you find any good
> descriptions.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > > Behalf Of Elizabeth and
> > > >Burton
> > > >Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 10:41 PM
> > > >To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: Overly
> Helpful
> > > People
> > > >
> > > >There are a few self defense moves which do not
> > > come across as "shoving him
> > > >away". He would never notice anything except
> that
> > > somehow he was no longer
> > > >connected to your arm or hand.  I learned them
> in
> > > akaido.
> > > >
> > > >I cannot describe them verbally enough for it
> to
> > > come across correctly.  I
> > > >will find out if descriptions exist in
> self-defense
> > > journals or something if
> > > >I can.
> > > >
> > > >E.
> > > >At 12:37 AM 12/5/2006, you wrote:
> > > > >What you say is true.  Regrettably, we live
> in a
> > > dangerous world.   If I'd
> > > > >been more uneasy, I might have shoved him
> away,
> > > which could be
> > > > >dangerous for him in the middle of an
> > > intersection.
> > > > >
> > > > >I also think you're right about more physical
> > > contact.  A new
> > > > >acquaintance, when offering to guide me in a
> > > restaurant (a courtesy I
> > > > >will accept, because the restaurants I tend
> to go
> > > to seem to have lots
> > > > >of cramped spaces and such), slipped my hand
> in
> > > his to guide.  I pulled
> > > > >my hand back and took his arm.  I wouldn't
> have
> > > minded flirting with
> > > > >him, but he's married, and so even holding
> hands
> > > seems off limits to
> > > > >me.  Maybe that's an entirely different
> subject,
> > > though.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > >From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On
> > > Behalf Of Elizabeth and
> > > > >Burton
> > > > >Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 10:23 PM
> > > > >To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: Overly
> Helpful
> > > People
> > > > >
> > > > >Reality is grabbing someone, particularly a
> woman
> > > without asking first
> > > > >is a stressful and possibly dangerous
> experience
> > > for the person being
> > > > >grabbed.  I understand the need to help.  I
> will
> > > stress in the book
> > > > >what we all know and have been trying to
> stress
> > > and will use humor to
> > > > >do it.  The human being is equipped with a
> mouth
> > > and the ability to use
> > > > >it.  Please let's learn the following
> phrases.
> > > Repeat after me children:
> > > > >"May I pet your dog."
> > > > >"Do you need help."
> > > > >alternatives to "Do you need help" include
> "Are
> > > you all right?"
> > > > >
> > > > >The implicit thing often thought is "I am
> worried
> > > about you.  Do you
> > > > >need help?" (can I stop worrying) and the
> other
> > > question is "I have
> > > > >nobody to help and here is a person I can
> help."
> > > I do not like this
> > > > >attitude much since I dislike being an object
> > > attracting folks who feel
> > > > >so non-needed and attracting them for their
> needs
> > > not my help By the
> > > > >way, you can tell that kind.  Those are the
> ones
> > > who keep insisting and
> > > > >hang on after you have said you do not need
> help.
> > > > >
> > > > >On a more ominous note, I think there are men
> who
> > > physically grab blind
> > > > >women for the same reason they would like to
> grab
> > > or touch a woman or
> > > > >any kind.  You can tell this kind because he
> is
> > > the one who tries to
> > > > >cop a feel of my tit while I am hholding his
> arm
> > > to cross a street.
> > > > >
> > > > >Bottom line, I thin, is that anyone needs to
> be
> > > at least a bit
> > > > >concerned about somebody grabbing them
> > > particularly in situations where
> > > > >he might be trying to pick your pocket or
> such.
> > > The fact is many of
> > > > >that kind are put off some by dogs.
> > > > >
> > > > >I also think women who are blind get
> physically
> > > contacted more than do
> > > > >blind men.  Somebody from AFB wrote a NY
> Times
> > > article about it a few years
> > > >ago.
> > > > >I will do my best to get ahold of it.  I want
> AFB
> > > in on the book
> > > > >project in some way, by the way.
> > > > >
> > > > >This thing really might take off.
> > > > >
> > > > >E.
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