That sounds like an interesting story, too. Perhaps another chapter for the book--Unseen Dangers, or someting like. Cindy --- Lora <loravara@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > When I was sixteen, and traveling with my first dog > in San Francisco and > Berkeley, I used to carry a pair of brass knuckles > with a knife attached. I > only had to open the blade once, but that was a very > scary night. > > That's when I took my one and only self-defense > class. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of Robert Riddle > Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 6:09 AM > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: self-defense > > When I was living on the streets, I had at least 6 > knives on my person. I > had 1 on my belt, 1 in each boot, one in my jacket > pocket, one up under my > armpit and another strapped to my inner wrist in a > spring clutch.. Now that > I'm not carrying everything I own on my back, I went > back down to 2 blades, > on my belt and in my belt pack. I've only had to use > a blade once, and I > won't go into that here. I take protection very > seriously and was trained in > the martial arts and wrestling. I refuse to use > force unless it's absolutely > necessary, which, as I said, has only happened once. > Word gets around on the > streets and I guess the guy I met spread the word > around that you don't f&&& > with the blind guy over on this side of town. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lora" <loravara@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 4:01 AM > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: self-defense > > > > The walking with confidence I already do. As to > keys, I don't do this > > all the time, but certainly when I'm coming home > late, I do. > > > > I've also thought about carrying mace, but have > never gotten around to it. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of Grandma > > Cindy > > Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 12:42 AM > > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] OT: self-defense > > > > A long time ago, on one of the magazine programs > like 60 minutes, they > > had > a > > section on how to avoid being attacked, and that > was one of the things > > to they stressed, especially for elderly or > women--to walk confidently > > and > with > > an air of self-assureance -- and hold your keys in > your hand with one > > key between two fingers pointed outward, so you > can jab someone in the > > eyes if necessary. > > > > Cindy > > > > > > > > > > The joke about well trained > > > akaido folks is that the > > > energy they give off and the confident way they > move means they get > > > messed with less. > > > > > > E. > > > At 12:44 AM 12/5/2006, you wrote: > > > >I did take a women's self-defense class while > > > living in San Francisco years > > > >ago, but I don't remember a thing. I've > thought > > > about pursuing aikido, and > > > >had even found an instructor willing to teach > me, > > > but then I moved to > > > >Denver. I haven't pursued that particular > interest > > > since. > > > > > > > >I'd love to know if you find any good > descriptions. > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > >From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > >[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > > > Behalf Of Elizabeth and > > > >Burton > > > >Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 10:41 PM > > > >To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: Overly > Helpful > > > People > > > > > > > >There are a few self defense moves which do not > > > come across as "shoving him > > > >away". He would never notice anything except > that > > > somehow he was no longer > > > >connected to your arm or hand. I learned them > in > > > akaido. > > > > > > > >I cannot describe them verbally enough for it > to > > > come across correctly. I > > > >will find out if descriptions exist in > self-defense > > > journals or something if > > > >I can. > > > > > > > >E. > > > >At 12:37 AM 12/5/2006, you wrote: > > > > >What you say is true. Regrettably, we live > in a > > > dangerous world. If I'd > > > > >been more uneasy, I might have shoved him > away, > > > which could be > > > > >dangerous for him in the middle of an > > > intersection. > > > > > > > > > >I also think you're right about more physical > > > contact. A new > > > > >acquaintance, when offering to guide me in a > > > restaurant (a courtesy I > > > > >will accept, because the restaurants I tend > to go > > > to seem to have lots > > > > >of cramped spaces and such), slipped my hand > in > > > his to guide. I pulled > > > > >my hand back and took his arm. I wouldn't > have > > > minded flirting with > > > > >him, but he's married, and so even holding > hands > > > seems off limits to > > > > >me. Maybe that's an entirely different > subject, > > > though. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > > >From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > >[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On > > > Behalf Of Elizabeth and > > > > >Burton > > > > >Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 10:23 PM > > > > >To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: Overly > Helpful > > > People > > > > > > > > > >Reality is grabbing someone, particularly a > woman > > > without asking first > > > > >is a stressful and possibly dangerous > experience > > > for the person being > > > > >grabbed. I understand the need to help. I > will > > > stress in the book > > > > >what we all know and have been trying to > stress > > > and will use humor to > > > > >do it. The human being is equipped with a > mouth > > > and the ability to use > > > > >it. Please let's learn the following > phrases. > > > Repeat after me children: > > > > >"May I pet your dog." > > > > >"Do you need help." > > > > >alternatives to "Do you need help" include > "Are > > > you all right?" > > > > > > > > > >The implicit thing often thought is "I am > worried > > > about you. Do you > > > > >need help?" (can I stop worrying) and the > other > > > question is "I have > > > > >nobody to help and here is a person I can > help." > > > I do not like this > > > > >attitude much since I dislike being an object > > > attracting folks who feel > > > > >so non-needed and attracting them for their > needs > > > not my help By the > > > > >way, you can tell that kind. Those are the > ones > > > who keep insisting and > > > > >hang on after you have said you do not need > help. > > > > > > > > > >On a more ominous note, I think there are men > who > > > physically grab blind > > > > >women for the same reason they would like to > grab > > > or touch a woman or > > > > >any kind. You can tell this kind because he > is > > > the one who tries to > > > > >cop a feel of my tit while I am hholding his > arm > > > to cross a street. > > > > > > > > > >Bottom line, I thin, is that anyone needs to > be > > > at least a bit > > > > >concerned about somebody grabbing them > > > particularly in situations where > > > > >he might be trying to pick your pocket or > such. > > > The fact is many of > > > > >that kind are put off some by dogs. > > > > > > > > > >I also think women who are blind get > physically > > > contacted more than do > > > > >blind men. Somebody from AFB wrote a NY > Times > > > article about it a few years > > > >ago. > > > > >I will do my best to get ahold of it. I want > AFB > > > in on the book > > > > >project in some way, by the way. > > > > > > > > > >This thing really might take off. > > > > > > > > > >E. > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank > > > Email to > > > > >bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > >put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the > > > subject line. To get a > > > > >list of available commands, put the word > 'help' > > > by itself in the subject > > > >line. > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank > > > Email to > > > > >bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > >put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the > > > subject line. 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