[bksvol-discuss] Re: OT Computer Hell

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jackie McBride 
  To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 12:26 AM
  Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT Computer Hell


  Gary, what happened is that there is a conflict between the laptop
  utility & xp as to who should handle the wireless, e.g., the laptop
  thought it should while windows thought it was his responsibility.

  The reality is it's probably best to let windows do it, but finding
  the proper place in the laptop wireless utility to tell it to abdicate
  control can be a well, uh, b-word. My recollection is that I had to
  jaws cursor around quite a bit to find the spot in the Atheros utility
  on my fujitsu.

  Well if u just wanna celebrate by getting a new system u could give it
  to me lol. Kidding, of course.

  On 1/3/09, Gary Petraccaro <garyp130@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
  > It does indeed not require a new system, but I just might get one to
  > celebrate!!!!!  We'll call it tempered optimism for a couple of days.
  > Unchecking the box you mentioned of letting Windows handle the connection
  > did the trick.  I was able to transfer a 114 meg file and another 20 meg
  > file without error.  Now, may I ask what's the purpose of that choice?
  > Thanks.
  >
  >   ----- Original Message -----
  >   From: Gary Petraccaro
  >   To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  >   Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 11:15 PM
  >   Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT Computer Hell
  >
  >
  >   Well there's nothing nearby that wasn't nearby when things were working.
  > Cordless devices are over a room away.
  >   Wireless connection is fine with signal strength at good or better.  I can
  > be right next to the router and will get the same file transfer problems,
  > btw.  My internet is fine as far as I can tell, by which I mean I can go to
  > Google, IMDB, the NLS download page and download fine on both machines.
  > It's when files travel between machines and are 20 meg or better that I have
  > problems.  XP is handling the wireless.
  >
  >
  >     ----- Original Message -----
  >     From: Jackie McBride
  >     To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  >     Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 10:48 PM
  >     Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT Computer Hell
  >
  >
  >     This is not something that requires a new system, as there do not
  >     appear to be any defective components. Thus, u could well get a new
  >     system & have similar problems.
  >
  >     Can u connect to the internet wirelessly? What is your wireless signal
  >     strength reading? Is windows handling your wireless networking?
  >     (control panel, network connections, wireless, properties, ctrl tab,
  >     if windows is handling it, the box is checked).
  >
  >     1 thing to check is proximity of cordless phones, microwaves,
  >     bluetooth, game stations, & other wireless devices which could
  >     potentially cause interference.
  >
  >     Having said that, though, this is very complex stuff &is not well
  >     handled by email.
  >
  >     On 1/3/09, Shelley L. Rhodes <guidinggolden@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
  >     > We have a Linkseys router too, and I remember it was a pain to get any
  > new
  >     > computers to join the network.
  >     >
  >     > You know must be I have no clue how, but have never sent a file to my
  > folks
  >     > computer downstairs.
  >     >
  >     > I do know it took us over an hour to convince the router to accept my
  > new
  >     > PC.
  >     >
  >     > Good luck Gary!
  >     >
  >     > Shelley L. Rhodes, M.A., VRT
  >     > And Guinevere: Golden Lady Guide Dog
  >     > guidinggolden@xxxxxxxxx
  >     > Guide Dogs for the Blind
  >     > Alumni Association
  >     > www.guidedogs.com
  >     >
  >     > The people who burned witches at the stake never for one moment
  > thought of
  >     > their act as violence;
  >     >  rather they thought of it as an act of divinely mandated
  > righteousness.
  >     >  The same can be said of most of the violence we humans have ever
  > committed.
  >     > -Gil Bailie, author and lecturer (b. 1944)
  >     >
  >     >   ----- Original Message -----
  >     >   From: Rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx
  >     >   To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  >     >   Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 3:12 PM
  >     >   Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT Computer Hell
  >     >
  >     >
  >     >   I have not had any problems even close to the problem you are having
  > and
  >     > that combined with my general ignorance of computers means that I
  > cannot
  >     > directly help you, but this past August when my hard drive crashed I
  > got my
  >     > computer back from the repair shop with it not working like it was
  > before
  >     > too. It was not working to my liking, but I found some work around and
  > I
  >     > have gotten pretty used to it by now. At least it did not become
  > unusable or
  >     > give me the major problems you have apparently had. I am thinking,
  > though,
  >     > that you might take it back to the same repair shop. If they were,
  > indeed,
  >     > the cause of your grief they just might repair it for free. table with
  > 2
  >     > columns and 6 rows
  >     >   Subj:
  >     >   [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT Computer Hell
  >     >   Date:
  >     >   1/3/2009 12:08:19 PM Eastern Standard Time
  >     >   From:
  >     >   garyp130@xxxxxxxxxxx
  >     >   Reply-to:
  >     >   bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  >     >   To:
  >     >   bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  >     >   Sent from the Internet
  >     >   (Details)
  >     >   table end
  >     >
  >     >   The systems both worked fine before going into the shop.  Both had
  > fresh
  >     > installs of XP placed on them.  The laptop uses Pro and has SP3.  The
  >     > desktop uses
  >     >   Home and I limit it to SP2 because SP3 screws up my serial
  > port-based
  >     > synthesizer.  The laptop's connection is wireless.  The desktop is
  > wired in.
  >     >  The
  >     >   router is a LinkSys 5400WRT (not sure of the letters, but it has
  >     > G-support, though my laptop only has B).  I did not change settings on
  > the
  >     > router.  The
  >     >   guy who set up the network in the first place did the networking or
  >     > checked the networking on the systems and couldn't isolate the
  > problem.
  >     >
  >     >   The store had someone install XP Home on the desktop and it came up
  > with a
  >     > log-on screen and some kind of search companion which constantly stole
  > focus
  >     >   from WE 7.0.  Because of that, I went back to a pre-install backup
  > made
  >     > with WE 5.5.  Problems started then.
  >     >
  >     >   But this doesn't mean that I had no problems when I had the screwing
  > up
  >     > install of XP Home with the search companion because I didn't do any
  >     > networking
  >     >   until I restored the backup.  Just recounting events as accurately
  > as I
  >     > can.
  >     >
  >     >   To answer other questions, both systems can go to the internet and
  > do
  >     > things like download NLS books.
  >     >
  >     >   I cannot transfer files between machines when the laptop is going
  >     > wireless.  I can transfer files when the machines are wired.  The
  > files have
  >     > to be over
  >     >   20 megabytes or so before the problem rears its ugly head.  The
  > messages
  >     > are of two types: "invalid file handle" and "lost network connection."
  >  They
  >     > don't
  >     >   come at the same time, but I get either one.  They come regardless
  > of
  >     > which machine initiates the transfer.
  >     >
  >     >   Both machines have the same kind and version of anti-virus, Avast,
  > and
  >     > both firewalls are inactivated.
  >     >
  >     >   I have rolled back network drivers on the laptop to no avail; just
  > tried
  >     > this earlier today.  I have turned off the anti-virus both p to p and
  >     > network protection
  >     >   on both machines.  Same problems earlier today.
  >     >
  >     >   Ask anything else in case you think I haven't supplied enough
  > information.
  >     >
  >     >   Thanks to all for their support and interest.
  >     >
  >     >   Btw, new machine became a possibility to consider when I realized
  > that I
  >     > might have to put both other machines in the shop and that this shop
  > may
  >     > well take
  >     >   over 2 weeks to get anything done.
  >     >
  >     >   block quote
  >     >   ----- Original Message -----
  >     >
  >     >   From:
  >     >   talmage@xxxxxxxxxx
  >     >
  >     >   To:
  >     >   bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  >     >
  >     >   Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 8:52 AM
  >     >
  >     >   Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT Computer Hell
  >     >
  >     >   Gary,
  >     >
  >     >   Not knowing all the ins-and-outs of what's going on with your setup,
  >     >   and what you've done to date, it sounds like you're going in the
  >     >   wrong direction looking at new systems.
  >     >   As someone else said already, we don't really have enough info to
  >     >   provide suggestions.
  >     >   You mentioned that both systems had new hard drives installed, does
  >     >   that mean they reinstalled Windows as well?  Are they both XP
  >     >   systems?  Is it an ethernet, wireless, etc. network?  Do both
  > systems
  >     >   appear to work fine in dependant of the network?
  >     >   You may have answered some of these questions previously, but if so,
  >     >   I missed them.
  >     >   If you buy a new system, you still won't have a network, so it
  >     >   doesn't seem like you're moving ahead.
  >     >   I think it was Judy who offered help, if you want additional
  >     >   assistance feel free to contact me directly.  In the past I've
  >     >   probably setup 20 or 30 networks, including Macs, MS-DOS, Linux, and
  >     >   Windows systems of various flavors.
  >     >   It's difficult to problem-solve remotely, but not impossible.
  >     >
  >     >   Dave
  >     >
  >     >   At 12:04 AM 1/3/2009, you wrote:
  >     >   >Glad to know.  I'm not sure I understand my feelings.  Both
  > machines
  >     >   >had to have hard drives replaced.  The networking went in working
  >     >   >and came out not working and I feel as if the machines let me down,
  >     >   >not whoever worked on them.  Ah well, I'm trying to be
  > philosophical
  >     >   >about it, and not succeeding very well.
  >     >   >
  >     >   >----- Original Message -----
  >     >   >From: <
  >     >   mailto:guidinggolden@xxxxxxxxx>Shelley
  >     >   L. Rhodes
  >     >   >To: <
  >     >   mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  >     >   >Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 10:15 PM
  >     >   >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT Computer Hell
  >     >   >
  >     >   >My sympathies Gary, I had to get a new computer in August, after my
  > old
  >     >   >faithful of almost five years did not make the trip back from
  > Boston,
  >     > well
  >     >   >successfully.
  >     >   >
  >     >   >Took a while to get the new compt built.  So totally understand
  > your
  >     >   >feelings.
  >     >   >
  >     >   >
  >     >   >Shelley L. Rhodes, M.A., VRT
  >     >   >And Guinevere: Golden Lady Guide Dog
  >     >   ><
  >     >   mailto:guidinggolden@xxxxxxxxx>guidinggolden@xxxxxxxxx
  >     >   >Guide Dogs for the Blind
  >     >   >Alumni Association
  >     >   ><
  >     >   http://www.guidedogs.com>www.guidedogs.com
  >     >   >
  >     >   >The people who burned witches at the stake never for one moment
  > thought
  >     > of
  >     >   >their act as violence;
  >     >   >  rather they thought of it as an act of divinely mandated
  > righteousness.
  >     >   >  The same can be said of most of the violence we humans have ever
  >     >   >committed. -Gil Bailie, author and lecturer (b. 1944)
  >     >   >
  >     >   >----- Original Message -----
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  >     >   >Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 8:15 PM
  >     >   >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT Computer Hell
  >     >   >
  >     >   >
  >     >   > > Gary, I'm sorry you're having so much trouble with your
  > computers. For
  >     >   > > some people it's an inconvenience. For a blind person, it's like
  >     >   > > losing our eyes for awhile. If I were transported back in time
  > where
  >     >   > > computers with speech didn't exist, I would have a hard time
  > adjusting
  >     >   > > to the lack of independence and inability to read freely. I hope
  > they
  >     >   > > can fix your computer issues with a minimum of downtime for you.
  >     >   > >
  >     >   > > --
  >     >   > > Monica Willyard
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