It is this darn Vista issue and I do not think 2001 runs on Vista. L Just think; Windows 7 is on the horizon. L Take care! Valerie Please pray for Doug's Dad & visit his website: http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/billkoonce From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cindy Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 1:21 AM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OCR standards chuckle. Valerie has certainly convinced me not to even try Word 2007.. I'm perfectly happy with my Word 2001 (I think it's 1989-2001) I may have a newer one, but I do remember that every time we upgrade anything I never like it as much as what I had. Cindy Wish List (i.e., books wanted added to the collection) and books-being-scanned list available at sites below Wish List: https://wiki.benetech.org/display/BSO/Bookshare+Wish+List Books Being Scanned List: https://wiki.benetech.org/display/BSO/Books+Being+Scanned+List --- On Mon, 8/24/09, Doug Maples <wdmaples@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Doug Maples <wdmaples@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OCR standards To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Monday, August 24, 2009, 6:42 PM Yes, I definitely have to laugh at the thought of Valerie giving up. She will literally stay up all night until she gets it right. And I don't mean just okay, she has to get it absolutely PERFECT! Then, she will badmouth the software company for days on end for putting out a product that works poorly. Has she told you lately that she HATES Word 2007? Smile Don't worry, she will get everything scanned and proofed that she has intended to. Once again, she may stay up all night, but she will do it. I guess you could say there are good and bad things about being OCD. She does accomplish what she is setting out to do, but she might kill herself doing it! Smile -- Doug (Valerie's husband) -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mayrie ReNae Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 7:32 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OCR standards HI Valerie! Do absolutely not beat yourself up about this! If we had known what software you were using to scan, we could have told you about the section breaks. It's not your fault. Fine Reader is what bookshare uses in-house, and those of us who have proofread bookshare-scanned books just know to convert the section breaks to page breaks before beginning to proofread. That converting is really, and truly no big deal at all. Don't give up scanning, or even bother to stop doing what you are doing. You can convert the section breaks to page breaks before submission, or put in the comments section of the submission form that the proofreader needs to do it! This is truly no big deal at all. It's so well-known, in fact, that we've included this conversion of section breaks to page breaks as a proofreading step in the documentation that we've created recently. So, please, please, just don't worry! Every software package has its idiosyncracies. Open Book makes all quotes smart quotes that need to be converted. Kurzweil can't recognize section breaks, so those of us who use it have to check for those using Word. Word has ribbons that confuse and makes screen readers choke. And, as you've seen, Fine Reader creates section breaks instead of page breaks. They're all created by humans and subject to our human falibility. We just work around the quirks and feel smug when we figure out how to foil the software. So, now you can feel smug with us, because you know what to expect. Don't give up, or feel inadequate! This is an order! Just kidding, but you get my ferventness, right? Mayrie -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Valerie Maples Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 5:14 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] OCR standards Well, I guess my lesson is that not all page breaks are created equal. This makes me very upset! Here I was using Word 2007, with the page break tool in the "ribbon" <choke>, but it appears that they are all section breaks to the best of my review at this point. I would have had no clue that the two could have been considered equal until I inserted all grammar markers. The irony is that a few of them are true page breaks, but most appear to be section breaks. I cannot for the life of me understand why so many of them would be section breaks instead of page breaks. I am using ABBYY FineReader 9.0 Professional Edition and as I said, Word 2007. Obviously now that I know to go back and look, I will always have my formatting tools visible, but I'm guessing the best bet is to withdraw my two submissions so that I can rework them. I will be very upset if there is no easy way to ensure that a page break really is a page break instead of a section break from the initial scan, but I can find no preference within ABBYY FineReader to ensure they come out right upon scanning. I have a hunch that it is probably because of having the software split a flatbed to page scan, but that is just my hunch. Like I said, for a perfectionist like me, this is very eerie taping to say the least. I pride myself on excellent work, even when I am new at. Smiles. Anyway, if those two books should be pulled, I will be glad to correct those egregious errors... My deepest apologies on my learning curve. 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