[bksvol-discuss] Re: OCR standards

Oh, you don't know me very well! My husband will laugh about this, but I do
not, DO NOT, under any circumstances give up on something. Wink. It just
really, really annoys me, because I would think that if I inserted a page
break within Word, it would come out as a page break, but it appears that
it's all the other page breaks were section breaks, that even the inserted
page breaks were probably section breaks. I know the difference, I just
absolutely, (can I state it for the 1000th time?) HATE Word 2007, and for
the life of me, cannot understand why OCR software would make page breaks
anything except page breaks. I just don't like not catching things like
that. Trust me, I am not beating myself up, but rather in enormously annoyed
with the software programmers, having been one in a previous life myself. It
would have been nothing to deal with at the onset. It will be no problem for
me to fix it, but it also mangled the couple of the front pages with
additional breaks. Ironically, when I did a universal find and replace, it
altered the entire document format to being about 2 inches wide. I do not
like nasty things like that happening to my documents. Thank heavens for
undo and previously saved versions.

Call it my ego, or blame my OCD, but I just hate thinking that something so
standardized was either missed by me or mis-created by me that I just want a
chance to make right. You won't get rid of me that quickly, like I said,
just ask my husband. Whatever happened to the days of "what you see is what
you get?"

So have no fear, having listened to this entire rant against software
publishers, you can't run me off that easily. Wink. You're stuck with me for
the duration, but I would like a chance to make it right, unless Kelly and
Ann really feel up to the challenge of these two books having been handled
inappropriately.

Thank you everyone for your patience!

Valerie



> -----Original Message-----
> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-
> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mayrie ReNae
> Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 7:32 PM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OCR standards
> 
> HI Valerie!
> 
>       Do absolutely not beat yourself up about this!  If we had known
> what
> software you were using to scan, we could have told you about the
> section
> breaks.  It's not your fault.  Fine Reader is what bookshare uses in-
> house,
> and those of us who have proofread bookshare-scanned books just know to
> convert the section breaks to page breaks before beginning to
> proofread.
> That converting is really, and truly no big deal at all.  Don't give up
> scanning, or even bother to stop doing what you are doing.  You can
> convert
> the section breaks to page breaks before submission, or put in the
> comments
> section of the submission form that the proofreader needs to do it!
> This is
> truly no big deal at all.  It's so well-known, in fact, that we've
> included
> this conversion of section breaks to page breaks as a proofreading step
> in
> the documentation that we've created recently.
> 
>       So, please, please, just don't worry!  Every software package has
> its idiosyncracies.  Open Book makes all quotes smart quotes that need
> to be
> converted.  Kurzweil can't recognize section breaks, so those of us who
> use
> it have to check for those using Word.  Word has ribbons that confuse
> and
> makes screen readers choke.  And, as you've seen, Fine Reader creates
> section breaks instead of page breaks. They're all created by humans
> and
> subject to our human falibility.  We just work around the quirks and
> feel
> smug when we figure out how to foil the software.
> 
>       So, now you can feel smug with us, because you know what to
> expect.
> 
> 
>       Don't give up, or feel inadequate!  This is an order!  Just
> kidding,
> but you get my ferventness, right?
> 
> Mayrie
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Valerie
> Maples
> Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 5:14 PM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] OCR standards
> 
> Well, I guess my lesson is that not all page breaks are created equal.
> This
> makes me very upset! Here I was using Word 2007, with the page break
> tool in
> the "ribbon" <choke>, but it appears that they are all section breaks
> to the
> best of my review at this point. I would have had no clue that the two
> could
> have been considered equal until I inserted all grammar markers. The
> irony
> is that a few of them are true page breaks, but most appear to be
> section
> breaks. I cannot for the life of me understand why so many of them
> would be
> section breaks instead of page breaks. I am using ABBYY FineReader 9.0
> Professional Edition and as I said, Word 2007. Obviously now that I
> know to
> go back and look, I will always have my formatting tools visible, but
> I'm
> guessing the best bet is to withdraw my two submissions so that I can
> rework
> them. I will be very upset if there is no easy way to ensure that a
> page
> break really is a page break instead of a section break from the
> initial
> scan, but I can find no preference within ABBYY FineReader to ensure
> they
> come out right upon scanning. I have a hunch that it is probably
> because of
> having the software split a flatbed to page scan, but that is just my
> hunch.
> Like I said, for a perfectionist like me, this is very eerie taping to
> say
> the least. I pride myself on excellent work, even when I am new at.
> Smiles.
> 
> Anyway, if those two books should be pulled, I will be glad to correct
> those
> egregious errors...
> 
> My deepest apologies on my learning curve.
> 
> Valerie
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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