[bksvol-discuss] Re: OB paragraph correction technique great but not perfect. smile (was Re: Re: Problem with Open Book)

  • From: "Lori Castner" <loralee.castner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 15:12:27 -0700

I know; it is a good technique, but it did not work on the book of Roger's that I took. In this book, each line ends with a paragraph marker, but no spaces, so when the paragraph markers are stripped two words run together.


I went back and used the 27-step process which worked in that I put a space and a letter in the replacement box. However, that technique is not fullproof because the paragraph marker preceeded many dates and many proper names and the 27-step technique can use only small letters. I will strip those markers manually and replace them with spaces.
Since I read through the whole book anyway it is not a hardship.

Lori C.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy s." <cherryjam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] OB paragraph correction technique great but not perfect. smile (was Re: Re: Problem with Open Book)


Hi Denise,

I checked out one of Roger's books and have tried your excellent wild card technique to fix lines within paragraphs that incorrectly end with paragraph marks. smile.

It's very helpful, but it still doesn't fix all of the paragraphing problems in Roger's book. It gets about 90 to 95 percent of them.

The problem I encountered is that in some sections of the book each line within a paragraph is not only ended with a paragraph mark, it is also followed by a blank line. So after running your wild card search sequence you still end up with some paragraphs that have a paragraph mark after every line. The extra blank line between those lines within a paragraph is stripped, but you now have a book that, while 90 percent better, has some paragraphs that are still wrong.

Secondly, this technique strips all the blank lines between the page numbers and the text of the first paragraph of the page. I don't know how the current implementation of Bookshare's converstion tool handles that, so it may not technically be a problem at all, but I wanted to mention it as it makes the format of the rtf document more difficult for the sighted reader.

Thanks again for posting this technique. I know I always appreciate another tool to reduce the scanning and proofreading workload! smile.

Judy s.

Denise Thompson wrote:
Roger
you’re digging yourself a hole here. Will you stop telling me it's the same as the 27 step process and that bookshare says it won't work. I use OB myself and I'm telling you it does work. Get yourself an inexpensive copy of word and I'll help you with your issue. You don't need pro or any of the rest of the suite just word. It'll be a lot less expensive than Kursweil which is either $1200 or $1300.
This is what you do
The idea here is that when scanning into OB, don't make any line or spacing changes until you're done. OB creates paragraphs by putting two paragraph marks together which makes a blank line between paragraphs. So you do what follows in the order I’ve specified. The first step gets rid of the paragraph marks at the end of each line. It uses the double marks to determine where the paragraphs are and thereby eliminates those single paragraph marks. The second step gets rid of the double paragraph marks leaving just one paragraph at the end of the paragraph and gets rid of the extra blank line. If you do the second step first, word has no way of determining which are the marks within the paragraph. So it gets rid of all paragraph marks. That’s why you must do the first step listed first. If you do some of the 27 step stuff before you do this it may throw it off. If you convert the M dashes before the paragraph that won’t hurt anything. If you locate page breaks and eliminate blank lines at the top of the page or something like that first it can goof uphow you want your page numbers or chapter titles to be displayed. For example it may pull the chapter to the same line as the page number. So you do this first before you look for page breaks or any of that stuff. You do this first before you do any other clean up and you’re home free. If you pull up a file into Word in which each line ends with a paragraph mark and each paragraph ends with two or more paragraph marks:
1.    On the Edit Menu, choose Replace.
2.         In the Find What box, enter:
([!^13])(^13)([!^13])
In the Replace With box, enter:
\1 \3
Click the More.. button, and check Use Wildcards.
Click Replace All and click OK when Word tells you it has done the replacement. This will remove any paragraph marks that are at the end of a line but within a paragraph.
3.         Now, in the Find What box, enter:
^13{2,}
In the Replace With box, enter:
^p
Click Replace All and click OK when Word tells you it has done the replacement. This will remove multiple consecutive paragraph marks, so that each paragraph ends with just one paragraph mark, as it should. Note that the Use Wildcards setting is sticky, so if you subsequently do another Find and Replace during the same Word session, you have to remember to switch it off again, if appropriate.

Denise




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