[bksvol-discuss] Re: NLS vs. Bookshare
- From: "Evan Reese" <mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 19:35:58 -0700
No reason at all why they can't do the same. They simply chose not to do it
that way. And I think their way is actually better for a number of reasons,
some of which I have already given. RFB&D adopted their system when solid
state storage was a lot more expensive and you could get a lot less of it in
a small package than you can today.
Evan
----- Original Message -----
From: Barbara
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 7:18 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: NLS vs. Bookshare
RFB&D uses specialized CD players and also allows readers to listen to
books on their computer or download them onto Book Port. Why can't NLS do
the same thing as RFB&D?
Lora <loravara@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Barbara,
I believe that there are security concerns with allowing the books to be
placed on regular CDs that anyone can play. Their specialized devices will
ensure that only people with such devices can play their books.
There's probably more to it than that, but that's my first guess.
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Barbara
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 5:29 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: NLS vs. Bookshare
Why can't NLS have the books on CDs that one can either play on a CD
player or one can listen to on a computer or on Book Port? In this way, even
those who don't have access to a computer can still listen to the Talking
Books on a CD player.
Barbara
"Julie & Miss Mercy, avon representative" <mercy421@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Not only are all their patrons not computer-savvy, but not all of them
even
have a computer to begin with. Many of them don't, so this would leave
out a
lot of people. Either way, I know those of you who use audio would
really
like to see that technology improve and I definitely think it should,
but
with the advent of Web Braille, I'd like to see more of those
produced, but
that'll never happen and I know why. Braille does take a lot longer to
produce and costs more, and the Web Braille files are the equivalent
of the
hardcopy braille files, so if they're not in hardcopy braille, they're
not
likely to have them on Web Braille, either, but it would be nice. As
long as
we're dreaming... Take care.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "wvusuperfan22"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 6:29 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: NLS vs. Bookshare
I don't have a problem with those new players but I kind of wish they
could
do something similiar like they do with Web Braille with audio books
where
you could download it as an audio file and then save it to your
computer and
then either listen to it on there or put it on your I-pod/MP3 player
which
ever you want. I figure this would cut down on costs since they could
just
store everything on a computer and not have anything at all cards,
cassettes, nothing like that. They could also save in tha they
wouldn't
have to purchase any kinds of players for their patrons.
I understand though that not every one of their patrons is computer
savvy so
they have to have somethng that will suit everyone but it would sure
be
nice. I think I would listen to a lot more audio if I could just
download
it like you can do with Bookshare instead of having to order it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Evan Reese"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 4:07 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: NLS vs. Bookshare
>I don't know. I think solid state storage is better than CD. No
moving
>parts, less chance of breakage of the players I would think. No
worries
>about scratches messing up the reading of the memory.
>
> Evan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 12:21 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: NLS vs. Bookshare
>
>
>> In their own sweet way, NLS is startig to get with technology. I'm
a bit
>> dubious re their solution to digital audio, because they're kind of
>> reinventing the wheel. It's some proprietary form of flash memory
>> cartrige, but the player, as I just found out, will accommodate
some
>> forms
>> of digital download.
>>
>> I don't think they gave the DAISY CD a fair shake and that minds
were
>> made
>> up too early in the process; but once it's fully deployed, (Give it
three
>> years), they just may be proved right.
>>
>> Anyway, even in the cassette field, the C1 player, though a bit
clunky,
>> isn't that big. The traditional recordplayer has all bug
disappeared,
>> something I'm going to have to confront when mine wears out. The
>> flexible
>> disks on which magazines were direct-circulated until 2000, were
cheap to
>> produce and quite durable. I should know; I have a whole shelf full
of
>> them.
>> --
>> "i dont see why these idoits are always after us. its not our falts
its
>> stupid bush's." Seen on ABC Web Comments." Music stops May 15! Pax,
Max.
>> or
>>
>> On Tue, May 8, 2007 19:22, wvusuperfan22 said:
>>> Hey Jamie:
>>>
>>> I am subscribed to nls but not bookshare; I am going to subscribe
soon
>>> as
>>> I love bookshare.
>>>
>>> I like NLS and the Web Braille service fine, but the only problem
I have
>>> is they do not have that many books in braille so they have a lot
of
>>> books
>>> that bookshare.org does not have except they are on cassette. I am
a
>>> really good braille reader and would actually read the books
instead of
>>> listening to them although I do not mind audio. I wish NLS could
do
>>> something where they maybe have an option for talking books
similiar to
>>> Web Braille in that you could download the talking book and listen
to it
>>> on your computer instead of ordering it and waiting for it come in
the
>>> mail and all that. Plus, with NLS talking books you have to have
this
>>> huge talking book player which is annoying.
>>>
>>> I personally like Bookshare better because it ahs all kinds of
books and
>>> all the books are ether in Daisy for people who want to listen to
them
>>> with audio or in a BRF format so if you want to read them in
braille on
>>> a
>>> note taker, you can. You can get the books instantly rather then
having
>>> to order them and waiting for them to come through the mail. Also,
I
>>> can
>>> just take my note taker anywhere and read rather then having a big
>>> talking
>>> book player. I personally think NLS needs to get with technology
more.
>>>
>>> Thanks, Kerri
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Jamie Yates
>>> To: Bookshare Volunteers
>>> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 9:41 AM
>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] NLS vs. Bookshare
>>>
>>>
>>> My friend sent this to me and asked me to ask opinions of the
>>> Bookshare
>>> volunteers. You can email me privately if you wish offlist at
>>> jamieyates@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>> My feeling is that for $50 a year for pretty much unlimited books,
>>> Bookshare does a very valuable service. I don't know and
understand
>>> completely how NLS works but from helping her with some problems I
spent
>>> a long time on hold with the Cleveland library trying to sort out
her
>>> NLS account (she doesn't have a Braille tty set up right now) and
they
>>> were very helpful but it takes time to get a physical book in the
mail.
>>> With Bookshare the access is instant. As a sighted person, I'm
almost
>>> jealous! I have to drive 10 miles to the library to get the books
I
>>> want. and then I can only keep them for 3 weeks. So I think
Bookshare is
>>> pretty great and I tell people about it all of the time.
>>>
>>> Anyway here is what she is asking:
>>>
>>> Jamie,
>>> This is from on of my DB friends. I thought you could share with
the
>>> Bookshare
>>> Volunteer list and send me any good things they have to say. (and
your
>>> feelings
>>> too)
>>>
>>> a debate going on about Bookshare and National
>>> Library Service which should be providing braille readers with ANY
>>> braille book
>>> they wish to read free of charge. One member said she knew of
others
>>> who
>>> could
>>> not afford to pay the $50 annual fee for Bookshare, and neither
could
>>> she.
>>> Another said that she'd like to be able to curl up in a chair and
read
>>> a
>>> brailled book. She's not sure how to download a book and convert
it
>>> into
>>> braille.
>>> I don't know anything about how to do this. I was wondering if you
>>> could
>>> give your view on Bookshare vs NLS and what the advantages or
>>> disadvantages
>>> are.
>>> Why isn't the NLS doing what Bookshare is doing?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jamie in Michigan
>>> Currently reading: Ceremony in Death - J.D. Robb
>>>
>>>
>>>
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