[bksvol-discuss] Re: Missing story titles

Dear Carrie, Bob and Booksharian Friends,

Many of us have noticed years ago that any number of blank lines above a 
chapter title are not enough to protect it. There has to be some written text 
above it. Why make that written text a series of junk characters like a string 
of stars, etc. when a page number will protect what comes below it and assist 
the reader in navigating the book as well. 

Always with love,

Lissi
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Carrie Karnos 
  To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 2:02 AM
  Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Missing story titles


  Hi Bob,

  I hate to say this, but I checked the first Sturgeon book, saw the several 
blank lines before each story title, approved the book, downloaded the DAISY 
version, and the story titles are gone.  This is just flat wrong. I'll talk to 
Engineering about it tomorrow.  I'll leave the other Sturgeon books in the 
approval queue until this gets sorted out.

  Sorry!  It will get fixed, sooner or later (hopefully sooner!)  Carrie


  ----- Original Message ----
  From: Bob <rwiley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  To: bookshare volunteer discussion <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 10:03:07 PM
  Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Missing story titles

  I just wanted to give you kind folks a follow-up on the missing story titles
  in the Theodore Sturgeon collections.

  Originally, I noticed that just about all the titles of the stories in one
  of these collections was missing. My first thought was to blame the
  validator for not noticing this obvious error and fixing it. It turned out
  that Misha was the hapless recipient of my anger, and I know that he's a
  careful validator and wouldn't let something like that go. So then I thought
  of the scannor, which was Carrie. Carrie is also an excellent scannor and
  wouldn't let something like that get by. I was beginning to think of things
  like divine intervention and demon posession.

  I asked Carrie to send me the original document which was submitted by the
  validator, which she did, and "ah ha!" those ppesky titles were in place. In
  fact, they seemed to be grinning up at me as if to say... but, I digress.

  It turns out that the infamous stripper was doing the dirty to this
  collection.

  A short check of the bookshare collection shows that there are three other
  collections of Mr. Sturgeon's stories missing story titles in the bookshare
  collection.

  I have just uploaded those three books with, I hope, story titles in tact.
  It turns out that
  the solution is quite simple: I simply put a paragraph mark before and after
  all page breaks, and that damned stripper is fooled into leaving my titles
  alone.

  Just wanted to give a follow-up to this pesky problem.

  Bob

  "Strippers belong in bars, not libraries."--Author unknown.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Curtis Delzer" <curtis@xxxxxxxxxx>
  To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 10:34 AM
  Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Missing story titles


  > hmm, makes me wonder if the "stripper," should be used at all? Aren't we
  > sophisticated enough by this time to handle the vagaries of what is
  > needed?
  > Or, maybe not?
  >
  > Curtis Delzer
  > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > From: "Devorah Greenstein" <DGreenstein@xxxxxxx>
  > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  > Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 8:31 AM
  > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Missing story titles
  >
  >
  > Ouch ouch. Like Bob, I am more confused now. Plus I don't have the
  > benefit of ever experiencing what these books are like after I validate
  > them because I'm sighted. So it's like dropping many hours of work into
  > a black hole and hoping for the best. And I, like many of you guys, am a
  > perfectionist. So I go over every word, check spellings in weird foreign
  > names, check everything, make it as perfect as I can, and upload it.
  >
  > But then what is happening to my work?
  >
  > I always do the wonderful ^p^m^p thing so that there are blank lines on
  > either side of the page breaks. But I have NOT been re-typing each page
  > number on the top of a page if the page numbers are at the bottom.
  >
  > I have left page numbers at the bottom of the page. Am I now correct in
  > my understanding that they all get wiped out? Even if there is a blank
  > line between the page number and the following page break?
  >
  > I do put a page number on the top of the first page of a chapter. It
  > just makes sense to do that. But is it mandatory put all other page
  > numbers at the top of each page?
  >
  > If the mysterious stripper is so smart can't it tell numeric characters
  > from alphabetic characters and leave numeric page numbers at the bottom
  > of the page?
  >
  > Devorah
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