[bksvol-discuss] Re: Missing story titles

Me too. That was a real life saver. Do they still make life savers? Bet they aren't a nickel any more. Oops, I'm rambling; my gerontologist said that might happen. *smile.


Seriously, I think the ability to get the last "good" version of a book to improve it's quality is a great help. It especially helps if the d_+|n stripper is going to turn all our hard work into garbage.

It would help if we could get a test copy back before it goes into the collection to see what it is going to look like, kind of like a pretend upload.

Recently, someone said that they were sighted and couldn't see what their final copy looked like. My hat's off to our sighted volunteers who scan or validate books without ever being able to see what their hard work accomplishes. I fear I'm too much of an egotist to be able to do that. It may sound silly, but I occasionally download a book I've validated just to glow in the pride that I've done a good job. Now, there are a few books that are in the collection that I hope no one ever finds out that I validated. Fortunately, those books are few in number, and occurred early in my validating career. Of course, there are still the Theodore Sturgeon books that I'm beginning to wish Mr. Sturgeon had never written. *smile. Actually, I kind of enjoy this challenge, and think we're close to a solution.

Bob

----- Original Message ----- From: "E." <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Missing story titles


Great. So glad they can do that.

E.


At 05:13 AM 5/16/2008, you wrote:
Hi E.
I asked Carrey to send me the .rtf version that was submitted by the last validator.

Bob
----- Original Message ----- From: "E." <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 1:12 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Missing story titles


If you took those copies out of the collection and re-submitted them, how did you retain the pagebreaks?

E.


At 01:03 AM 5/16/2008, you wrote:
I just wanted to give you kind folks a follow-up on the missing story titles
in the Theodore Sturgeon collections.

Originally, I noticed that just about all the titles of the stories in one
of these collections was missing. My first thought was to blame the
validator for not noticing this obvious error and fixing it. It turned out
that Misha was the hapless recipient of my anger, and I know that he's a
careful validator and wouldn't let something like that go. So then I thought of the scannor, which was Carrie. Carrie is also an excellent scannor and wouldn't let something like that get by. I was beginning to think of things
like divine intervention and demon posession.

I asked Carrie to send me the original document which was submitted by the validator, which she did, and "ah ha!" those ppesky titles were in place. In fact, they seemed to be grinning up at me as if to say... but, I digress.

It turns out that the infamous stripper was doing the dirty to this
collection.

A short check of the bookshare collection shows that there are three other collections of Mr. Sturgeon's stories missing story titles in the bookshare
collection.

I have just uploaded those three books with, I hope, story titles in tact.
It turns out that
the solution is quite simple: I simply put a paragraph mark before and after all page breaks, and that damned stripper is fooled into leaving my titles
alone.

Just wanted to give a follow-up to this pesky problem.

Bob

"Strippers belong in bars, not libraries."--Author unknown.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Curtis Delzer" <curtis@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 10:34 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Missing story titles


hmm, makes me wonder if the "stripper," should be used at all? Aren't we
sophisticated enough by this time to handle the vagaries of what is
needed?
Or, maybe not?

Curtis Delzer
----- Original Message ----- From: "Devorah Greenstein" <DGreenstein@xxxxxxx>
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Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 8:31 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Missing story titles


Ouch ouch. Like Bob, I am more confused now. Plus I don't have the
benefit of ever experiencing what these books are like after I validate
them because I'm sighted. So it's like dropping many hours of work into
a black hole and hoping for the best. And I, like many of you guys, am a perfectionist. So I go over every word, check spellings in weird foreign
names, check everything, make it as perfect as I can, and upload it.

But then what is happening to my work?

I always do the wonderful ^p^m^p thing so that there are blank lines on
either side of the page breaks. But I have NOT been re-typing each page
number on the top of a page if the page numbers are at the bottom.

I have left page numbers at the bottom of the page. Am I now correct in
my understanding that they all get wiped out? Even if there is a blank
line between the page number and the following page break?

I do put a page number on the top of the first page of a chapter. It
just makes sense to do that. But is it mandatory put all other page
numbers at the top of each page?

If the mysterious stripper is so smart can't it tell numeric characters
from alphabetic characters and leave numeric page numbers at the bottom
of the page?

Devorah

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