[bksvol-discuss] Re: Mindless frivolityRE: Re: 2 questions for the gang
- From: "Kim Friedman" <kimfri11@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 16:09:19 -0800
What can I say? Chacun a son gout. Those titles would make me wince and shy
away from them as one would shy away from fleas, bedbugs, etc. Better you
than me, kid. That's all I care to say. I'll proof romances if the titles
aren't abominable. I applaud your sense of humor. Is it warped or twisted or
did you have something happen to you that you're attracted to these sorts of
titles? Okay, who am I to fault your choice of reading matter? It's your
choice and more power to you. I'll just shake my head and mumble about how
it takes all kinds to make a world (theatrical sigh with headshake). Take
care of your self and have a great week. Regards, Kim.
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Shannon Curry
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Mindless frivolityRE: Re: 2 questions for the
gang
Oh, Harlequin. I have to admit I hate their titles, too. Although they are
good for a quick read when I want something easy to proof.
(There's one on the checkout list called Betrothed: To the People's Prince,
which I've meant to grab because the title makes me giggle. I know it's
probably not going to be an awesome book, but that awful title does make me
wonder what horrible things might be found inside, and like a trainwreck, I
can't look away.
Shannon
At 01:22 AM 3/2/2010, Kim Friedman wrote:
>Hi, Shannon, I like romance books with good titles in them. I can't say
>I'd jump at "The Billionaire's Blonde Bombshell", because that's so
>hokey. I don't know if you've ever read Clare Darcy's stuff, but what I
read I liked.
>I also like Diana Gabaldon's books because Claire and Jamie are
>relating together as a married couple and the sex there is described
>correctly and as part of every day life. I know the romance genre has
>the man-meets-woman, both-have misunderstandings, both realize they
>love each other, and they marry. I do like it when they have emotional
>depths to their characters and experience growth in their personalities
through healing or understanding.
>That kind of book satisfies me where you can get to know or like the
>characters. I admit to talking to the characters saying "Don't act like
>a moron buddy" or "What's with you, honey, don't you listen?" or "Don't
>act like a bitch/bastard". Shannon, with regard to frivolity, I am a
>folksinger and in my repertoire there are silly songs. I personally
>think silliness is a necessary part of life to combat when you're
>feeling too frazzled and things around you are entirely too grim and
>serious. I suppose this is an effort for us to keep a balance in our lives
and in the world. Regards, Kim.
>
>
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>[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Shannon Curry
>Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 9:44 PM
>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Mindless frivolityRE: Re: 2 questions for
>the gang
>
>Mostly I said what I said because I thought someone had to stick up for
>the pr0n-loving contingent on the list.
>
>I agree that gratuitous sex is never good, but I also think that one
>person's gratuitous sex is another person's really hot encounter. I can
>think of a couple of erotic romance authors who are masters at making
>sure every scene contributes to the relationship and is plot-relevant.
>But I'm pretty sure lots of people would still dismiss their books as
>having too much gratuitous sex.
>
>That being said, I'd so much rather read gratuitous sex than gratuitous
>violence. At least in romance novels--at least those written after,
>say, 1990--you know that the characters like each other. But I can't
>take graphic violence, and my tolerance for torture porn (which is how
>much of it comes
>across) is quite low.
>
>Shannon
>
>
>
>At 11:32 PM 3/1/2010, Kim Friedman wrote:
> >Speaking for myself, I don't care for sex or violence if it's
> >gratuitous, i.e., when there's no reason for it. In romance novels I
> >get, you pretty much know that sex will come up at some point in the
> >story because of the feelings of the protagonists. I can accept this
> >as it fits. I really like it if there's genuine caring going on and
> >sex is used to show there is not only desire but some sense of
> >commitment and caring occurring. I feel uncomfortable when there's
> >coldness and nastiness being praised. It distresses me when people
> >are heartless toward each other and sex is a weapon. I also think it
> >depends on what the author is trying to do in the story. If violence
> >is used but is not regarded as glorious then I think it's there for a
> >purpose. I do have problems with some of James Patterson's books
> >because he overdoes the psychopathic killer thing. I don't like this
> >"Well if you have one serial killer in the novel to scare the
> >bejabers out of people, why not have two or more." This is overkill.
> >I suppose that's why I'm unwilling to
>read horror novels. I don't like anything too gruesome.
> > If I can't find something I like about the author's characters,
> >it's probable I might not care for the book. If the writing's good,
> >the story's good, and I care about the characters, I'll read a book
> >even though I may not care for the language or there's descriptions
> >of sex or
>violence.
> >Regards, Kim.
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Shannon
> >Curry
> >Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 9:29 AM
> >To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: 2 questions for the gang
> >
> >I'd just like to put my vote out there for mindless frivolity. I
> >enjoy it all--strong language, explicit sex, all of it. I figure
> >there are volunteers out there who are better at reading and proofing
> >serious work. Me, I like fluff. I can read more of it, and I read
> >enough serious required texts that I feel no guilt about asking for
> >an explicit
>romance novel to proof.
> >
> >Shannon
> >
> >
> >
> >At 08:41 PM 2/26/2010, Roger Loran Bailey wrote:
> > >I am going to have to agree with you on that one. I have nothing
> > >against sex scenes and I have nothing against the very most graphic
> > >and explicit sex scenes, per se. But how many body parts rubbing
> > >against how many body parts described in how many ways can there be
> > >anyway. It also happens that the more sex scenes and the more
> > >explicit the sex scenes there are in a book the less interested in
> > >it I
>am likely to be.
> > >That is because the book as a whole is likely to not have much
> > >depth to it. That is to say, they tend to be mindless frivolity.
> >
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