[bksvol-discuss] Re: Mindless frivolityRE: Re: 2 questions for the gang

I admit I'll proof anything; I may wince at  some things and shudder at other 
things, but I'll take on anything. Only one book did I do that had scenes that 
I really thought were disgusting  but I learned a lot about certain behaviors 
from it from it.
Cindy

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--- On Tue, 3/2/10, Kim Friedman <kimfri11@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> From: Kim Friedman <kimfri11@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Mindless frivolityRE: Re: 2 questions  for the 
> gang
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Tuesday, March 2, 2010, 4:09 PM
> What can I say? Chacun a son gout.
> Those titles would make me wince and shy
> away from them as one would shy away from fleas, bedbugs,
> etc. Better you
> than me, kid. That's all I care to say. I'll proof romances
> if the titles
> aren't abominable. I applaud your sense of humor. Is it
> warped or twisted or
> did you have something happen to you that you're attracted
> to these sorts of
> titles? Okay, who am I to fault your choice of reading
> matter? It's your
> choice and more power to you. I'll just shake my head and
> mumble about how
> it takes all kinds to make a world (theatrical sigh with
> headshake). Take
> care of your self and have a great week. Regards, Kim.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Shannon Curry
> Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 6:53 AM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Mindless frivolityRE: Re: 2
> questions for the
> gang
> 
> Oh, Harlequin. I have to admit I hate their titles, too.
> Although they are
> good for a quick read when I want something easy to proof.
> 
> (There's one on the checkout list called Betrothed: To the
> People's Prince,
> which I've meant to grab because the title makes me giggle.
> I know it's
> probably not going to be an awesome book, but that awful
> title does make me
> wonder what horrible things might be found inside, and like
> a trainwreck, I
> can't look away.
> 
> Shannon
> 
> At 01:22 AM 3/2/2010, Kim Friedman wrote:
> >Hi, Shannon, I like romance books with good titles in
> them. I can't say 
> >I'd jump at "The Billionaire's Blonde Bombshell",
> because that's so 
> >hokey. I don't know if you've ever read Clare Darcy's
> stuff, but what I
> read I liked.
> >I also like Diana Gabaldon's books because Claire and
> Jamie are 
> >relating together as a married couple and the sex there
> is described 
> >correctly and as part of every day life. I know the
> romance genre has 
> >the man-meets-woman, both-have misunderstandings, both
> realize they 
> >love each other, and they marry. I do like it when they
> have emotional 
> >depths to their characters and experience growth in
> their personalities
> through healing or understanding.
> >That kind of book satisfies me where you can get to
> know or like the 
> >characters. I admit to talking to the characters saying
> "Don't act like 
> >a moron buddy" or "What's with you, honey, don't you
> listen?" or "Don't 
> >act like a bitch/bastard". Shannon, with regard to
> frivolity, I am a 
> >folksinger and in my repertoire there are silly songs.
> I personally 
> >think silliness is a necessary part of life to combat
> when you're 
> >feeling too frazzled and things around you are entirely
> too grim and 
> >serious. I suppose this is an effort for us to keep a
> balance in our lives
> and in the world. Regards, Kim.
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Shannon Curry
> >Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 9:44 PM
> >To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Mindless frivolityRE: Re:
> 2 questions for 
> >the gang
> >
> >Mostly I said what I said because I thought someone had
> to stick up for 
> >the pr0n-loving contingent on the list.
> >
> >I agree that gratuitous sex is never good, but I also
> think that one 
> >person's gratuitous sex is another person's really hot
> encounter. I can 
> >think of a couple of erotic romance authors who are
> masters at making 
> >sure every scene contributes to the relationship and is
> plot-relevant. 
> >But I'm pretty sure lots of people would still dismiss
> their books as 
> >having too much gratuitous sex.
> >
> >That being said, I'd so much rather read gratuitous sex
> than gratuitous 
> >violence. At least in romance novels--at least those
> written after, 
> >say, 1990--you know that the characters like each
> other. But I can't 
> >take graphic violence, and my tolerance for torture
> porn (which is how 
> >much of it comes
> >across) is quite low.
> >
> >Shannon
> >
> >
> >
> >At 11:32 PM 3/1/2010, Kim Friedman wrote:
> > >Speaking for myself, I don't care for sex or
> violence if it's 
> > >gratuitous, i.e., when there's no reason for it.
> In romance novels I 
> > >get, you pretty much know that sex will come up at
> some point in the 
> > >story because of the feelings of the protagonists.
> I can accept this 
> > >as it fits. I really like it if there's genuine
> caring going on and 
> > >sex is used to show there is not only desire but
> some sense of 
> > >commitment and caring occurring. I feel
> uncomfortable when there's 
> > >coldness and nastiness being praised. It
> distresses me when people 
> > >are heartless toward each other and sex is a
> weapon. I also think it 
> > >depends on what the author is trying to do in the
> story. If violence 
> > >is used but is not regarded as glorious then I
> think it's there for a 
> > >purpose. I do have problems with some of James
> Patterson's books 
> > >because he overdoes the psychopathic killer thing.
> I don't like this 
> > >"Well if you have one serial killer in the novel
> to scare the 
> > >bejabers out of people, why not have two or more."
> This is overkill. 
> > >I suppose that's why I'm unwilling to
> >read horror novels. I don't like anything too
> gruesome.
> > >  If I can't find something I like about the
> author's characters, 
> > >it's probable I might not care for the book. If
> the writing's good, 
> > >the story's good, and I care about the characters,
> I'll read a book 
> > >even though I may not care for the language or
> there's descriptions 
> > >of sex or
> >violence.
> > >Regards, Kim.
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Shannon 
> > >Curry
> > >Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 9:29 AM
> > >To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: 2 questions for the
> gang
> > >
> > >I'd just like to put my vote out there for
> mindless frivolity. I 
> > >enjoy it all--strong language, explicit sex, all
> of it. I figure 
> > >there are volunteers out there who are better at
> reading and proofing 
> > >serious work. Me, I like fluff. I can read more of
> it, and I read 
> > >enough serious required texts that I feel no guilt
> about asking for 
> > >an explicit
> >romance novel to proof.
> > >
> > >Shannon
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >At 08:41 PM 2/26/2010, Roger Loran Bailey wrote:
> > > >I am going to have to agree with you on that
> one. I have nothing 
> > > >against sex scenes and I have nothing against
> the very most graphic 
> > > >and explicit sex scenes, per se. But how many
> body parts rubbing 
> > > >against how many body parts described in how
> many ways can there be 
> > > >anyway. It also happens that the more sex
> scenes and the more 
> > > >explicit the sex scenes there are in a book
> the less interested in 
> > > >it I
> >am likely to be.
> > > >That is because the book as a whole is likely
> to not have much 
> > > >depth to it. That is to say, they tend to be
> mindless frivolity.
> > >
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