[bksvol-discuss] Re: Meaning of acronymRE: Re: Auditory Processing Disorder and Reading Accessibility
- From: Valerie Maples <vlmaples@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 23:46:40 -0600
Not defensively, but just an aside. For many non-typists (like myself) due to
physical disability, computer shorthand is a time and energy saver, although we
should never assume others know the lingo.
Take care!
Valerie
On Dec 21, 2009, at 9:03 PM, Debby Franson wrote:
> Hi Kim!
>
> I don't go wild on the computer shorthand either.
>
> Debby
>
> At 03:03 PM 12/20/2009, Kim Friedman wrote
>> Hi, Debby, Kim here. HTH is a shortcut way of saying "hope that (or this)
>> helps". I personally prefer to write what I want to say without resorting to
>> such computer shorthand. Regards, Kim.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Debby Franson
>> Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 12:55 PM
>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Auditory Processing Disorder and Reading
>> Accessibility
>>
>> Hi Lynnsky!
>>
>> You must have had the page that Melissa had, because we had the same
>> experience with the combo box and play button after I followed Melissa's
>> link. Thanks for your help by describing yur experiences. It showed we
>> were on the same page, both litterally and figuratively.
>>
>> What does HTH mean? I have seen it in a few messages including yours.
>>
>> Debby
>>
>> At 12:44 AM 12/19/2009, Lynn I wrote
>> >Hi Debby!
>> >
>> >I don't remember how many voices were in the combo box. There were at
>> >least three or more English voices, including an Australian English
>> >one. There were also several voices in other languages. I didn't find a
>> >specific play button for each voice. I chose the voice from within the
>> >combo box, and used the play button below to open Windows Media Player.
>> >
>> >HTH
>> >
>> >Blessings.
>> >
>> >Lynnsky
>> >
>> >
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Debby Franson
>> >Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 3:46 PM
>> >To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Auditory Processing Disorder and Reading
>> >Accessibility
>> >
>> >Hi Lynnsky and Melissa!
>> >
>> >Did you have more than three voices to listen too? On the page where I
>> >was successful that I wrote about earlier, I had the button for each
>> >voice and Windows Media Player came up just as for you.
>> >
>> >Debby
>> >
>> >At 06:06 PM 12/17/2009, Lynn I wrote
>> > >Hi Debby!
>> > >
>> > >I did pretty much the same thing. There is a combo box that allows
>> > >you to choose the voice you want to listen to. Below that is a (play)
>> > >button. I also just opened the file and didn't save it.
>> > >
>> > >After I listened to one voice, I closed the link to (media player)
>> > >and went back into the combo box and chose another voice. There a
>> > >quite a few good ones on the site.
>> > >
>> > >HTH
>> > >
>> > >Blessings.
>> > >
>> > >Lynnsky
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >-----Original Message-----
>> > >From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Melissa
>> > >Smith
>> > >Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 6:02 PM
>> > >To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Auditory Processing Disorder and
>> > >Reading Accessibility
>> > >
>> > >Debby,
>> > >I also use Window-Eyes. Here is what I did. I changed the voice,
>> > >which automatically changed the text in the box. The page would
>> > >refresh after I switched voices. After the page had refreshed, I
>> > >pressed play. A dialog popped up, asking if I wanted to open or save
>> > >the file. I chose to
>> >open it.
>> > >It took a little while to download, as the files were about
>> > >1 MB. Once it ad downloaded, Windows Media Player automatically
>> > >opened and played the sample text in the voice I selected.
>> > >
>> > >Melissa
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >Debby Franson wrote:
>> > > > Hi Chela!
>> > > >
>> > > > I followed your link, which brought me to a list of all of the
>> > > > voices and text of what they said, but, although I followed the
>> > > > instructions to click on the version to hear the voice both with
>> > > > the enter key and routing the Window-Eyes mouse and clicking with
>> > > > the left mouse button hot key, nothing happened on any of the
>> > > > voices. I was on a different page when I heard Simon. That time,
>> > > > there was a link to the sample, unlike what I found on this page.
>> > > >
>> > > > Debby
>> > > >
>> > > > At 02:25 PM 12/15/2009, Chela Robles wrote
>> > > >> Hello everyone, here is a demo page of Lequendo voices they sound
>> > > >> quite natural don't you think?
>> > > >> Enjoy and let me know what you all think,
>> > > >> http://www.loquendo.com/en/demos/demo_tts.htm
>> > > >>
>> > > >> ----------------
>> > > >> "If you go without playing the trumpet for one day, no one knows,
>> > > >> two days, only you know, and more than three days without
>> > > >> practicing, girl you better look out, because everyone will know!"
>> > > >> Today, I find myself constantly saying those words, just to get
>> > > >> myself going, to not give up, and it works. Since I learned to
>> > > >> play the trumpet at the tender age of 10, I have spent so much
>> > > >> passion and much diligence with that instrument that I will not give
>> up on it.
>> > > >> Sometimes my instrument puts me into awkward situations where I
>> > > >> feel like they won't ever end, but the trumpet gives me a lot of
>> > > >> hope with the majestic, crystal-clear sound it brings to my ears.
>> > > >> ----------------
>> > > >> Chela Robles
>> > > >> E-Mail: cdrobles693@xxxxxxxxx
>> > > >> MSNWindowsLive Messenger: cdrobles693@xxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > >> Skype: jazzytrumpet
>> > > >>
>> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Valerie Maples"
>> > > >> <vlmaples@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > >> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 11:42 AM
>> > > >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Auditory Processing Disorder and
>> > > >> Reading Accessibility
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >>> It certainly might be indicative of a Central Auditory
>> > > >>> Processing disorder, only testing can tell for sure.
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> Valerie
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> On Dec 15, 2009, at 1:02 PM, Roger Loran Bailey wrote:
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>> For those of you who know something about audio processing
>> > > >>>> disorders I wonder if you can make a guess as to whether I have
>> > > >>>> one. I do not have a problem understanding synthetic voices or
>> > > >>>> any of the talking book narrators, but I seem to have a problem
>> > > >>>> understanding a person talking when there is back ground noise.
>> > > >>>> I do not necessarily mean loudness, but that is a definite problem.
>> > > >>>> I mean even soft sounds like elevator music in the background.
>> > > >>>> I have a very difficult time having a conversation with someone
>> > > >>>> on a city sidewalk. I have to keep asking for the speaker to
>> > > >>>> repeat her or himself and I have noticed that some people
>> > > >>>> become annoyed
>> >with me.
>> > > >>>> This is a problem I have always had and for the most part I
>> > > >>>> have not thought about it being abnormal, but when no one else
>> > > >>>> seems to have a problem understanding someone in the exact same
>> > > >>>> environment I have sometimes wondered. The best way I can
>> > > >>>> describe it is to say that it seems to me that the background
>> > > >>>> noise is as important as what
>> > > >>> I am trying to listen to and it is a conscious effort on my part
>> > > >>> to ignore it.
>> > > >>>> "I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them
>> > > >>>> to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires."
>> > > >>>> - Susan B. Anthony
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> The Militant:
>> > > >>>> http://www.themilitant.com
>> > > >>>> Pathfinder Press:
>> > > >>>> http://www.pathfinderpress.com
>> > > >>>> Granma International:
>> > > >>>> http://www.granma.cu/ingles/index.html
>> > > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Valerie Maples"
>> > > >>>> <vlmaples@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > >>>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > >>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 1:44 PM
>> > > >>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Auditory Processing Disorder and
>> > > >>>> Reading Accessibility
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> Dear Monica;
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> Just like so many areas in health care, there are a wide range
>> > > >>>> of variance in people who have auditory processing disorders. I
>> > > >>>> certainly don't know what is considered typical, I just know
>> > > >>>> about the spectrum they can cover. The new Acapello voices are
>> > > >>>> far superior for most people. I think you will be pleased with
>> > > >>>> the investment.
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> Unfortunately I am in no position to site I have read things as
>> > > >>>> my computers are in total upheaval. I can only speak to my 2
>> > > >>>> children who were identified as having auditory processing
>> > > >>>> disorders and the fact that they could not follow commands by
>> > > >>>> earlier speech devices using DECtalk and I was told that that
>> > > >>>> was common. I know that many individuals with auditory
>> > > >>>> processing disorders could not retain information presented in
>> > > >>>> SAPI 4 voices and then he still can only use some of the SAPI 5
>> > > >>>> voices. Sorry I cannot be of more help. I know more about
>> > > >>>> solutions then the research
>> >behind them. Smiles.
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> Valerie
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:34 PM, Monica Willyard wrote:
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>>> Hi Valerie. I'm probably an odd exception to the auditory
>> > > >>>>> processing disorder group. I don't know what is typical, and
>> > > >>>>> I'm learning more about it as I go. I was only correctly
>> > > >>>>> diagnosed this year, as an adult.
>> > > >>>>> Like Nicole,
>> > > >>>>> I like the new Acapella voice Bookshare gives us and would
>> > > >>>>> love to have all of my devices and programs use that voice,
>> > > >>>>> especially JAWS. I'm going to buy it for my computer as soon
>> > > >>>>> as I can afford it.
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> You mentioned that people with auditory processing disorder
>> > > >>>>> don't recognize TTS speech as sound. That confuses me a little.
>> > > >>>>> Do you have any books or web sites you could recommend about
>> > > >>>>> this? If there is no information on Bookshare, I will look for
>> > > >>>>> a couple of books to scan about it. I seem to be backward if
>> > > >>>>> this is
>> >normal.
>> > > >>>>> Then again, I'm blind too, so maybe normal isn't really
>> > > >>>>> applicable.
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> I do well using specific types of speech, and there are some
>> > > >>>>> human readers I can barely comprehend. My inability to
>> > > >>>>> understand certain readers makes those books inaccessible for
>> > > >>>>> me unless I scan them for myself. That's something champions
>> > > >>>>> of audiobooks probably don't really understand. I look at the
>> > > >>>>> name of the narrator of a book or listen to a sample of the
>> > > >>>>> speech before even considering buying it from Audible.
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> I like books that are in a text format so I can use a voice
>> > > >>>>> that I understand clearly. I prefer Braille if I can get it.
>> > > >>>>> If not, I need a fairly constant, very clear, and unaccented
>> > > >>>>> voice to cope with reading. When I have to use a device with a
>> > > >>>>> confusing voice, I use my computer to record books into mp3
>> > > >>>>> files using a voice that I do understand well. Then I put my
>> > > >>>>> good files on the bad device and can function well.
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> Knowing what I'm dealing with, and that it will benefit our
>> > > >>>>> deaf/blind members as well, I usually end up scanning books I
>> > > >>>>> want to read from NLS unless they have the book in WebBraille.
>> > > >>>>> I often end up scanning my Audible books too, especially ones
>> > > >>>>> that I want to learn from or read in depth.
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> Monica Willyard
>> > > >>>>> "The best way to predict the future is to create it." -- Peter
>> > > >>>>> Drucker
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> -----Original Message-----
>> > > >>>>> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > >>>>> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
>> > > >>>>> Valerie Maples
>> > > >>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 8:18 PM
>> > > >>>>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > >>>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Publishers and Bookshare As a
>> > > >>>>> Library
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> I have to agree with Judy. As a matter of fact, Nichole would
>> > > >>>>> never listen to a synthetic voice until the acapella voices
>> > > >>>>> that are now available on her device. I don't know anyone who
>> > > >>>>> prefers TTS over audio books and most are more than willing to
>> > > >>>>> pay for the alternative. The only people who learn to accept
>> > > >>>>> TTS are those who need a wider range of books or budget
>> > > >>>>> constraints make the other alternative unaffordable. Then
>> > > >>>>> there are people with auditory processing disorders who do not
>> > > >>>>> even acknowledge TTS as speech as it is processed slightly
>> differently in the brain.
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> In my opinion we need to constantly be exploring and expanding
>> > > >>>>> all mediums all of text accessibility and in a cooperative
>> > > >>>>> effort like Bookshare, I think that everyone comes out winners.
>> > > >>>>> I know that even though I have a membership now I will
>> > > >>>>> probably almost exclusively be a volunteer due to time
>> > > >>>>> constraints, but being a member will allow me to check how
>> > > >>>>> certain things are handled in the final process or view how
>> > > >>>>> proofreaders have handled
>> >my scans.
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> Interesting dialogue everyone...
>> > > >>>>> Valerie
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>> > > >>>>>> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > >>>>> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> > > >>>>>> Behalf Of Judy s.
>> > > >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 2:39 PM
>> > > >>>>>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > >>>>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Publishers and Bookshare As a
>> > > >>>>>> Library
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> I view the disabling of TTS as about as silly as the digital
>> > > >>>>>> rights management.
>> > > >>>>> <snip>
>> > > >>>>>> I don't know a single sighted person, other than myself, who
>> > > >>>>>> will willingly listen to listen to a book that they can read
>> > > >>>>>> by listening to it in a synthetic voice. Me? I can't afford
>> > > >>>>>> expensive audible downloads, and the NLS's offerings are very
>> > > >>>>>> limited in my tastes, so listening to books via bookshare
>> > > >>>>>> downloads using either DAISY or Text Aloud has become an
>> > > >>>>>> acquired taste, one I've become used to and actually very
>> > > >>>>>> much
>> >enjoy.
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> If sighted readers were the least bit interested in hearing
>> > > >>>>>> books read with a synthetic voice, I suspect the market would
>> > > >>>>>> be flooded with that sort of book. Why? It is much cheaper
>> > > >>>>>> for a book publisher to produce that en masse than it is to
>> > > >>>>>> hire a professional reader and studio to produce the master
>> > > >>>>>> for each and every book that becomes an audible book.
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> I really doubt that sales of human-read audible books would
>> > > >>>>>> waver one whit if ebooks had TTS enabled. It would expand the
>> > > >>>>>> market of ebooks available to the sighted/disabled reader,
>> > > >>>>>> but that's about it.
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> Just my opinion. Grin.
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> Judy s.
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to
>> > > >>>>> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > >>>>> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To
>> > > >>>>> get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by
>> > > >>>>> itself in the subject line.
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to
>> > > >>>>> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > >>>>> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To
>> > > >>>>> get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by
>> > > >>>>> itself in the subject line.
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to
>> > > >>>> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > >>>> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To
>> > > >>>> get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself
>> > > >>>> in the subject line.
>> > > >>>> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to
>> > > >>>> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > >>>> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To
>> > > >>>> get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself
>> > > >>>> in the subject line.
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to
>> > > >>> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > >>> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get
>> > > >>> a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in
>> > > >>> the subject line.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to
>> > > >> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > >> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get
>> > > >> a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in
>> > > >> the subject line.
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >> No virus found in this incoming message.
>> > > >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>> > > >> Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 270.14.111/2569 - Release Date:
>> > > >> 12/16/09 13:52:00
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > --
>> > > > Enjoy what you have rather than desiring what you don't have. Just
>> > > > dreaming about nice things is meaningless; it is like chasing the
>> > > > wind.--Ecclesiastes 6:9 NLT
>> > > >
>> > > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to
>> > > > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a
>> > > > list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the
>> > > > subject line.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to
>> > >bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a
>> > >list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the
>> > >subject
>> >line.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >No virus found in this incoming message.
>> > >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>> > >Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 270.14.111/2570 - Release Date:
>> > >12/17/09 02:30:00
>> > >
>> > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to
>> > >bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a
>> > >list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the
>> > >subject
>> >line.
>> > >
>> > >No virus found in this incoming message.
>> > >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>> > >Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 270.14.113/2573 - Release Date:
>> > >12/18/09 01:35:00
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> >mailto:<the.bee@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >--
>> >Enjoy what you have rather than desiring what you don't have. Just
>> >dreaming about nice things is meaningless; it is like chasing the
>> >wind.--Ecclesiastes
>> >6:9 NLT
>> >
>> > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to
>> >bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a
>> >list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject
>> line.
>> >
>> >
>> >No virus found in this incoming message.
>> >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>> >Version: 9.0.717 / Virus Database: 270.14.113/2573 - Release Date:
>> >12/18/09 01:35:00
>> >
>> > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to
>> >bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a
>> >list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject
>> line.
>> >
>> >No virus found in this incoming message.
>> >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>> >Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 270.14.114/2574 - Release Date:
>> >12/18/09 13:38:00
>>
>>
>> --
>> mailto:<the.bee@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> --
>> Enjoy what you have rather than desiring what you don't have. Just dreaming
>> about nice things is meaningless; it is like chasing the wind.--Ecclesiastes
>> 6:9 NLT
>>
>> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to
>> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of
>> available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.
>>
>>
>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature
>> database 4704 (20091220) __________
>>
>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.
>>
>> http://www.eset.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature
>> database 4704 (20091220) __________
>>
>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.
>>
>> http://www.eset.com
>>
>>
>>
>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature
>> database 4704 (20091220) __________
>>
>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.
>>
>> http://www.eset.com
>>
>>
>> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to
>> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of
>> available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.
>>
>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>> Version: 9.0.717 / Virus Database: 270.14.116/2580 - Release Date: 12/21/09
>> 13:13:00
>
>
> --
> mailto:<the.bee@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> --
> Enjoy what you have rather than desiring what you don't have. Just dreaming
> about nice things is meaningless; it is like chasing the wind.--Ecclesiastes
> 6:9 NLT
>
> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to
> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of
> available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.
>
To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to
bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of
available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.
Other related posts:
