[bksvol-discuss] Re: M dashes and fonts

  • From: Valerie Maples <vlmaples@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 19:02:23 -0600

Sue and Mayrie;

It really is difficult when editing terms are not used consistently amongst 
different programs. For what it is worth, speech recognition handles  the word 
dash and the word hyphen in the style that sue indicated. It does get very 
confusing, however, not everyone is coming from the same background. That's why 
some of these discussions can be both frustrating and helpful, depending on 
which perspective you come from. For me, it is helpful to know that we are 
speaking about the same thing, just using different words.

The funny thing is that growing up I never knew that there was a difference 
between a dash or a hyphen, so I probably grew up in Mayrie's school of 
learning. Smiles.

Valerie 

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On Jan 24, 2011, at 4:31 PM, Mayrie ReNae wrote:

> Hi Sue,
> 
> Wow, we had a big miscommunication.  I always heard the words dash and
> hyphen used interchangeably.  Fortunately, it doesn't matter any more, since
> we don't need to convert em dashes to anything at all any more.  Whew!
> 
> Mayrie
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sue Stevens
> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 1:30 PM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: M dashes and fonts
> 
> 
> Hi Mayrie,
> 
> In the days when I took dictation on the dictaphone, if someone said dash,
> they meant two hyphens, not one hyphen.  If they said hyphen, they meant one
> hyphen, not a dash, which was two hyphens.  Thus, I do not understand what
> you mean when you say we were never told to convert M-dashes to dashes. 
> (smile)
> 
> Sue S.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mayrie ReNae" <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 12:14 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: M dashes and fonts
> 
> 
>> Hi Roger,
>> 
>> Never were we told to convert em dashes to a dash.  It used to be 
>> necessary
>> to convert them to two hyphens, but now the conversion tools do this for 
>> us.
>> A dash is a hyphen creating a compound word, an em dash, or in the old 
>> days,
>> two hyphens denoted a pause in the reading.  Very, very different things, 
>> so
>> if people are converting em dashes to a single hyphen or dash, they're not
>> helping at all!
>> 
>> Mayrie
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Roger Loran 
>> Bailey
>> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 10:07 AM
>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: M dashes and fonts
>> 
>> As I recall, we were told some time back that it is better if we change 
>> the
>> m dashes to a dash, but it is not required.
>> 
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>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Regina Alvarado" <regina.alvarado6@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 11:59 AM
>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: M dashes and fonts
>> 
>> 
>>> Ah something else I didn't know.  I have been changing those crazy M-s to
>>> 1
>>> dash.  One less step I guess!  Sorry Cindy for the misinformation.
>>> Reggie
>>> 
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>>> Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 4:47 PM
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>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: M dashes and fonts
>>> 
>>> Cindy good news you can leave the m dashes in since the braille
>>> translation
>>> software can now read them correctly, as far as fonts go, I'll let 
>>> someone
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>>> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 1:42 PM
>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] M dashes and fonts
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Ugh, I have proofread before, but there are things I should remember.
>>>> If I have to do a training book, not sure I will cause I'm not sure I
>>>> have the time.
>>>> 
>>>> First of all, if the book has m dashes, do we take those out, or do
>>>> they translate into double hyphens. Or should they be changed to --.
>>>> Second, am I supposed to go through this book and find fonts to change.
>>>> Some of these say 11 point, not greater than 14.
>>>> 
>>>> Metyhinks these are my only questions about the book.
>>>> 
>>>> Cindy
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