[bksvol-discuss] Re: Jaws, tight lipped about page breaks!

  • From: Rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 08:53:36 EDT

 
This is my third venture into validating and, yes, JAWS did read page  breaks 
during continuous reading on the other two. I have read the volunteer  manual 
and the various help pages before starting and I thought I remembered  that 
somewhere it said that the page numbers had to be there. If they do not  then I 
will consider whether or not to put them in after I get through the book  
without them. I think I am inclined to insert them. 
 
Now, I am learning all kinds of things from this list. Prior to this  
discussion I did not quite know how to use the JAWS dictionary. After reading  
some 
of this I went into my dictionary and successfully changed it to pronounce  a 
certain word, bibliophile, correctly after having put up with its annoying  
mispronunciation for a very long time. Now I am inclined to try some of this 
new  
found knowledge to see if I can fix its current failure to read page breaks 
in  continuous read mode. Do I recall correctly that the symbol I will be 
working  with is \012? In a message dated 7/27/2008 10:49:12 P.M. Pacific 
Daylight 
Time,  mrenae@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:

Hi  Roger,

What you are experiencing is pretty normal, I  think.  Were you,
before this issue came up, accustomed to hearing  jaws announce "page break"
when reading continuously?  Sorry if you  have answered that already.  

Your solution sounds  the most practical to me.  

Now, I will tell you  that Bookshare, though it does require page
breaks, does not require that  books have page numbers.  Many of us insert
them when working if they  aren't present.  I just wanted to let you know
that inserting them is  not required by Bookshare.  Those who take the time
to insert them are  much appreciated by me and many others.  I personally
absolutely  always insert them when working on a book whose page numbers
didn't scan  well.  Just wanted you to know that you have choices while  still
adhering to the letter of Bookshare law.

Good luck, and I for  one do appreciate your  conscientiousness!

Mayrie



-----Original  Message-----
From:  bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]  On Behalf Of Estelnalissi
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 9:03 PM
To:  bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Jaws, tight  lipped about page breaks!

Dear Roger,

When Jaws was speaking  Page break, I was listening to the book by arrowing
down one line at a  time. I don't use continuous play because I think I
concentrate and notice  more detail one line at a time. The act of arrowing
down line by line seems  to aid my concentration on the task. Reading line by
line helps me hear  when funky formatting is going on as when margins are all
over the map or  fonts go huge, because those problems present as much
shorter or longer  sounding lines. Really, I'm not sure that matters as long
as the paragraph  breaks are in the right places. 

I'm sorry I can't contribute anything  to help you hear page breaks when JAWS
is continuously reading.  

Good luck.

Always with love,

Lissi

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx  
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent:  Sunday, July 27, 2008 11:43 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re:  Jaws, tight lipped about page breaks!


As a matter of fact, I am having a similar problem. I have just
started  validating a book in which I at first thought that there were no
page  breaks. However, when I down arrow one line at a time JAWS reads the
page  breaks when I come to them. It just doesn't do so when it is
continuously  reading. To make matters worse, none of the pages are numbered.
I have just  inserted the first ten page numbers, but this is too tedious
while reading  the text too. If no other solution is found I think that I
will just go  ahead and finish the book on continuous read and then go back
and down  arrow from one page break to another inserting page numbers. By the
way, I  am using JAWS 9.0. In a message dated 7/27/2008 8:26:54 P.M.  Pacific
Daylight Time, poetprodigy7@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:


-------------- Original  message from "Estelnalissi"
<airadil@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>: --------------  


> Dear Booksharian Friends, 
> 
> Recently I upgraded to JAWS  nine point zero something
something something, 
> the upgrade after plain JAWS nine point oh. Now it no
longer  announces page 
> breaks. Where it used to  say Page Break, it now says
blank. 
>  
> Seeing if the page breaks are there is  tedious, slow and
dizzy making for 
> me,  at the very least. This is slowing me down. Has anyone
had the same  
> problem? 
> 
> If nobody has ideas about this, I  can reinstall JAWS nine
point oh and hope 
> that solves the problem. I'll also call JAWS tech help. I
don't have  much 
> confidence in it because when I  called for the first time
in two years, they 
> wanted to blame it all on Norton without delving in my
problem  at all, and 
> this after my latest Norton  upgrade had worked fine for 4
months without 
> disturbing JAWS. I think computer maintenance is as
ongoing and  expensive 
> and frustrating as car  maintenance must be for people who
own them. I like 
> appliances that work for years without acting  twisted,
things like fans, 
>  refrigerators, radios and washing machines! 
> 
> Thanks in advance, 
> 
> Lissi 
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