I know this is a little late on this topic but sitting here drinking coffee and getting caught up. As a legally blind person we are allowed to use scanned books for access reasons. Now if I scan a book and send it to a sighted person I believe the disclaimers at the beginning of all books that this work cannot be duplicated etc, etc would apply. It seems that we can use our scans to make the information available to blind persons but not to sighted persons. Katie Hill The Reconnection & reiki Healing Get yur personalized numerology chart Kaitlyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of christy Schulte Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 1:45 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: International issues and building the globallibrary I don't think you're misinterpreting. Jim was pretty clear that we can't submit our scans that we send to bookshare anywhere that is illegal. However, my understanding is that it wasn't for ownership reasons, but rather so that anyone checking illegal services out won't find an exact copy of a book that is on bookshare. The problem is that there is no way to prove that the book on the illegal site wasn't gotten from bookshare itself, if the files are identical. I don't like it either, for the same reasons discussed here. I'm just clarifying, and like it or not, I do understand it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah J. Blake" <sarah@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 4:30 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: International issues and building the global library Hi, Jim. Thanks for communicating with us about your work on the international issue. You said: << I hear these bogus excuses that we aren't working on it, that we don't care. >> In many cases these aren't intended to be bogus excuses. Most people probably are very unaware of what Bookshare's plans for the future are. Without being aware, it really can come across that nothing is being done. Many of those comments come to me from people who buy products that have Bookshare access bundled but find that they aren't eligible because they live in the wrong country. These people become naturally very resentful. I would, too: here was my hope built up of being able to access titles, and it's dashed to bits all because I live in the wrong country. I can understand the sentiment quite easily. I can also understand the confusion over what constitutes a "Bookshare book" and the issues surrounding limiting what people do with their scans. If another legitimate service popped up somewhere, would we be prevented from submitting our scans there? I have to admit that I'm a bit unsettled at this point by some of the implications of what I'm reading here. There seems to be an ownership of our scans implied beyond the issue of pirate sites. I am troubled by this concept. I can understand the concept of protecting a book that is Bookshare-downloaded in the same way that you wouldn't want a submission that comes from NLS. I do have a problem with the concept that we could not take the original scan and submit it, and I would appreciate having that clarified as well. Perhaps I am misreading because I have a tendency to interpret things too literally. I hope so. Sarah J. Blake sarah@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.growingstrong.org To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. !DSPAM:13,4380eb0763901975121032! -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.4/176 - Release Date: 11/20/2005 To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.