I hadn't thought of it, but it does make sense. I hadn't really read very much about how these more natural-sounding voices work. I knew that they were based on recorded human speech, but I really hadn't considered much of what happens beyond that. But it does make sense that they would need more resources than older types. I got ViaVoice running, and so far, it is working fine. I am currently keeping default Kate for messages and ViaVoice for reading.Since I do most reading in Braille, anyhow, it's not a big deal which voice I use to read with, since I mainly use it to spot check and make sure things are coming out ok, or read something short, not a whole book. I do like those VoiceText voices, though. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jake Brownell To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 5:04 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Interesting K1000 Problem Hi Evan, The hard disk reading probably comes from the fact that the program is putting bits and pieces of recorded human speech together to form words, phrases and letters. For instance one word might sound different when read by itself than in a common phrase. This can happen because the actual phrase was recorded containing the word, whereas when it's standalone it's put together from specific consenant and vowel sounds. These natural voices are not traditional software synthesizers like elloquence and IBM TTS because they are generated from a much smaller set of sounds. Again, this is just a lot of supposition, but supposition that seems to make sense, grin. Jake ----- Original Message ----- From: Evan Reese To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 6:50 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Interesting K1000 Problem Thanks, Jake, I may try the ViaVoice and see how it works. After playing with the default voice, though, I'm not sure if it is the voice hogging resources, or it is that it is not bringing the text into memory as soon as it is recognized. I have noticed that when arrowing down through something I've scanned, I hear a lot of disk activity, as though it is getting the text from disk and not from memory. It responds faster when arrowing up than down. Also, if I leave it for a minute or so - I didn't time it, but if I, say, go and read a couple of email messages - and come back to it, it responds as quickly as any other voice when I arrow down through the document I left open. Still, I will see what happens with the other voices. I do like the sound of Kate and Paul, though. I could listen to them read for a long time. They really sound pretty natural. Once the engineers get the inflection down a little better, these voices will really sound virtually indistinguishable from a human voice, I would bet. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jake Brownell To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 4:40 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Interesting K1000 Problem Hi Evan, I find even with a gig of memory that the natural sounding voices can sometimes be quite sluggish. I would encourage you to try again the IBM TTS as I believe the Kurzweil version is newer. They also sound better. In addition Kurzweil has, if memory serves me correctly, blocked all the character combinations of length 4 from being passed to IBM if it will crash the engine. Keep in mind when Kurzweil does crash from either IBM problems or an internal error, you at most have lost a single page of work. The program will ask you if you want to open the last file that wasn't properly saved when you re-enter the product. Let us know what your experience is. Jake ----- Original Message ----- From: Evan Reese To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 6:20 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Interesting K1000 Problem Thanks, Tiffany, I thought I might have imagined it there, because it is fully in English now, after I reloaded the program. However, I am not sure I like this default voice they have. It is very human-sounding, but I have a 3-ghz Pentium with 512 megabytes, but still when I arrow down a page, just skimming something I put on the scanner, it seems to respond slowly. I may have to try one of the others and see if it is a little more spritely. I want to stay away from the ViaVoice engine, however, as that used to crash a lot on my OpenBook. ----- Original Message ----- From: Tiffany H. Jessen To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 4:13 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Interesting K1000 Problem On my computers I still only have version eight and nine, and my friend has version ten, and the two of us both come across this. Not only when changing settings, but even right in the middle of reading a page.. of English none-the-less! My computers seem to prefer French and German, while my friend's changes to something Asian. Neither of us can figure why this happens, because what's worse, is that we haven't installed any additional languages, so why, or even how, it changes we don't know. This happens with both the reading and message voice. Sometimes it's only one or the other, while other times it's both at once. Usually I cannot undo it, so what I do is save the file based on my already having memorized the keystrokes, and then I close and reopen the program. At that point everything goes back to my default settings. Tiff ----- Original Message ----- From: Evan Reese To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 6:45 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Interesting K1000 Problem I just installed the K1000 demo, and I was just looking through the menus to see what was in them. I notice that in the scanning settings, when changing the delay between repeated scans, and in changing the scanning brightness, the voice changes and speaks in a foreign language I cannot identify. Anyone heard of this? I guess I gotta read the manual at some point, but this seems a little weird. If it is speaking English all the rest of the time, why would it change languages for just those two settings, at least those are the only ones I have seen so far. I haven't looked at all of them, yet. Still, very strange. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. 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